[TUHS] V9 shell [was Re: Warner's Early Unix Presentation]
Arthur Krewat
krewat at kilonet.net
Wed Feb 12 03:18:55 AEST 2020
Sorry to top-post...
To me, the biggest handicap to getting anything done, code-wise,
command-line-wise, basically anything, is the keyboard/mouse.
I use keyboard shortcuts as much as possible, being an old LA36 kind
guy, but I would love to have something that just by looking at text, be
able to highlight, copy/cut/paste, etc.
Even action buttons. It would be great to look at the "Send" button in
Thunderbird and press a key on the mouse or keyboard (or some other
eye-contact type signal) and "do" it.
Was anything ever done in terms of sub-vocalization? Lots of stories in
Sci-Fi about that, nothing ever came out of it, I don't think.
On 2/11/2020 12:05 PM, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote:
> Rob Pike wrote in
> <CAKzdPgz6qPuqOfTe4eLqmM4f4RXTxqWRO-3NLHTaMxJg7mT-Nw at mail.gmail.com>:
> |My general mood about the current standard way of nerd working is how \
> |unimaginative and old-fashioned it feels. There are countless ways \
> |we could be interacting with our terminals, editors, and shells
> |while we program, but for various sociological and historical reasons \
> |we're pretty much using one from decades ago. I'm sure it's productive \
> |for almost everyone, but it seems dull to me. We could be
> |doing something much more dynamic. I mean, xterm is hardly more sophisti\
> |cated than the lame terminal code that ran in mpx (ca. 1982), other \
> |than colors and cursor addressing, which date from the 1960s
> |via early PCs. IDEs don't sing to me, although they are powerful, because \
> |they don't integrate well with the environment, only with the language. \
> |And they are just lots of features, not a coherent
> |vision. No model to speak of.
> |
> |Compare what happened with our shell windows with what happened with \
> |our "smart" phones in the last 20 years and you'll get some inkling \
> |of what I think we're missing. It's not that we should program the
> |way we use iPhones, but that there are fields where user interface \
> |work has made a real different recently. Not so in programming, though. \
> |We're missing out.
>
> I cannot imagine any other real step forward but control-by-
> thought, aka brain computer interfaces. (I personally am even
> convinced we will get the brain implant -- ever since i got all
> those B and C Hollywood movies from the 50s wrong, back when i was
> a kid. It is convincing still, automatic emergency calls, health
> record and cases of incompatibility at hand when needed, and not
> to talk about the hints it will give the law enforcement side of
> the road.)
>
> Just last year i have seen a report on the current stage of
> affairs, Carnegie-Mellon and Minnesota Universities seem to have
> build a non-invasively controlled robotic arm, pretty high
> precision.
>
> "Wir haben erhebliche Fortschritte im Bereich
> Robotervorrichtungen mit Gedankensteuerung über Gehirnimplantate
> gemacht.
> We have made substantial progress in the region of
> thought-controlled robotic devices via implants.
>
> Das ist hervorragende Forschungsarbeit", sagt He.
> "That is superb research work", says He [Professor Bin He,
> Carnegie-Mellon].
>
> "Nichtinvasiv ist jedoch unser ultimatives Ziel.
> Fortschritte in der neuronalen Dekodierung und der praktischen
> Auswirkungen auf die mögliche Entwicklung nichtinvasiver
> Nutzbarkeit nichtinvasiver Roboterarmsteuerung werden erhebliche
> Neurorobotik haben."
>
> "Albeit non-invasive is our ultimate goal.
> Progress in neuronal decoding, and the practical usability of
> non-invasive control of robotic arms will have substantial
> effect on the possible development of non-invasive
> neuro-robotics."
>
> |But I'm a grumpy old man and getting far off topic. Warren should cry, \
> |"enough!".
>
> I personally would love it, if it where only in the hands of
> empathic beings, capable of reflection. Yet it is us. ^_^
>
> --steffen
> |
> |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear,
> |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one
> |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off
> |(By Robert Gernhardt)
>
>
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