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[Bakul Shah]

If this option was added back then (992-94) I might have switched
over. I think I was tempted as it was “programmable”. But as it didn’t
have any other new features that I really wanted plus I was always
messing up undo/redo, probably like Clem, there was not much
point in switching. As it happens, I didn’t use the programmability
feature even when it was added to nvi!

No point in advocating as anyone who is used to the “more” of vim
would be frustrated with nvi!

> On Jan 8, 2020, at 7:08 PM, Larry McVoy <lm at mcvoy.com> wrote:
> 
> I feel like there is an option to get nvi behaviour now but I dunno
> why you want that.  Are you seriously advocating for less?  Because
> objectively vim gives you more.
> 
> And it is faithful to vi, it has all the buffers so you can put stuff
> back that way.
> 
> Maybe I'm clueless or I drank the koolaid, but I love vim.  It's vi
> but better.
> 
> On Wed, Jan 08, 2020 at 06:59:02PM -0800, Bakul Shah wrote:
>> Early in vim???s life I had emailed Moolenaar asking him if he would be
>> willing to add an option for nvi like behavior for undo/redo. He wasn???t
>> interested so I lost interest. nvi???s u & . behavior is not only quite clever
>> but also  much more intuitive and you don???t have to press the ctl key!
>> 
>>> On Jan 8, 2020, at 6:12 PM, Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> make a new command, don't break the old one....  maybe offer a way to map the new one over the old -- but don't make it the default.
>>> and my lawn was lush and green before the snow came ;-)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 9:07 PM Larry McVoy <lm at mcvoy.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jan 08, 2020 at 09:04:46PM -0500, Clem Cole wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 8:41 PM Bakul Shah <bakul at bitblocks.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> The first thing I do on a new machine is to install nvi. Very grateful to
>>>>> Keith Bostic for implementing it. I do use multiple windows ??? only
>>>>> horizontal splits but that is good enough for me as all my terminal
>>>>> windows are 80 chars wide. Not a vim hater but never saw the need.
>>>> 
>>>> I pretty much do the same thing. I think what I hate about vim is that it's
>>>> almost, vi but not the same. My fingers screw up when I use it.  For
>>>> instance, he 'fixed' undo.   
>>> 
>>> Holy crap Clem, you need to embrace that.  His undo goes back forever.
>>> And you can undo the undo and go forward forever.  
>>> 
>>> Not liking that puts you in the "get off my lawn" old guy camp.  Which
>>> is fine if that's who you want to be (sometimes I'm that guy).
> 
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