[TUHS] History of popularity of C

Clem Cole clemc at ccc.com
Thu May 28 01:09:43 AEST 2020


Henry Spencer's 10 Commandments for C Programmers
<https://www.seebs.net/c/10com.html>


On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 10:38 AM Ronald Natalie <ron at ronnatalie.com> wrote:

> The large areas of undefined and unspecified behavior has always been an
> issue in C.   It was somewhat acceptable when you were using it as a direct
> replacement for assembler,
> but Java and many of other follow-ons endevaored to be more
> portable/rigourous.   Of course, you can write crap code in any language.
>
> It didn’t take modern C to do this.   On the PDP-11 (at least not in split
> I/D mode), location zero for example contained a few assembler instructions
> (p&P6) which you could print out.
> Split I/D and VAX implementations made this even worse by putting a 0 at
> location 0.    When we moved from the VAX to other processors we had
> location zero unmapped.   For the
> first time, accessing a null pointer ended up trapping rather than either
> resulting in a null (or some random data).    Eventually, we added a
> feature to the kernel called “Braindamanged
> Vax compatibility Mode” that restored the zero to location zero.   This
> was enabled by a field we could poke into the a.out header because this was
> needed on things we didn’t have
> source code to (things we did we just fixed).
>
> Similar nonsense we found where the order that function args are evaluated
> was relied upon.  The PDP-11, etc…  evaluated them right-to-left because
> that’s how they had to push them
> on the stack for the call linkage.   We had one machine that did that in
> the opposite order (I considered flipping the compiler behavior anyhow0 and
> when we got to the RISC architectures,
> things were passed in registered so the evaluation was less predictable.
>
> I already detailed the unportability problem I found where the BSD kernel
> “converted by union”.
>
> The most amusing thing I’d have to say was that one day I got a knock on
> my office door.   One of the sales guys from our sister company wanted to
> know if I could write some Novell
> drivers for an encrypting ethernet card they were selling.    The
> documentation for writing the driver was quite detailed but all describing
> i386 assembler interfaces (and the examples
> were in assembler).   About a week into the project I came to realization
> that the linkages were all the C subroutine calls for that platform.    The
> caller was C and there was no particular
> reason why the driver wasn’t also written in C.
>
>
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