[TUHS] First machine to run rogue?

[Richard Salz]

Ken Arnold posted the original source to
https://sourceforge.net/projects/rogue/ back in 2000.

On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 9:12 AM Bakul Shah <bakul at iitbombay.org> wrote:

> Glenn wrote up a brief history where he says it was first distributed with
> 4.2bsd.
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/19980625212119/http://www.wichman.org/roguehistory.html
>
> @ Fortune Systems in 1983/83 we had 3-4 college students working for a
> contract company Santa Cruz Operations(?) doing testing for us. He was one
> of them and later we hired him full time. I didn’t interact with him much
> though and once I quit Fortune I lost track of him. I think initially we
> had only a rogue binary on 4.1 running on VAX780 but I do not recall if he
> brought it to Fortune. Someone later ported it to the  Fortune machine. I
> used to play Rogue while waiting for kernel compiles to finish. A few years
> ago I got it on FreeBSD and my muscle memory came back 100%!
>
> On Jul 2, 2021, at 5:16 AM, Dan Cross <crossd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 7:40 AM <arnold at skeeve.com> wrote:
>
>> Is the rogue source extant?  I remember many people spending many
>> hours on rogue on the 4.[12] BSD vax at Georgia Tech.
>>
>> ISTR that rogue only came as a binary, there was no source.
>>
>
> It is; it looks like it was first distributed with 4.3BSD-Tahoe. The
> sources there are listed as "public domain rogue", but I'm not sure about
> the provenance of that code.
>
>         - Dan C.
>
>
> Arnold
>>
>> Dan Cross <crossd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks, Clem. I'm curious what other lore is out there: my suspicion is
>> > that rogue never ran on vanilla v6, but it would be great to validate.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 10:51 PM Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I first got it on V7, as I said on our 11/70 for sure but I don’t
>> remember
>> > > if we had it on the 11/60 before that.
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 10:07 PM Dan Cross <crossd at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> What was the first machine to run rogue? I understand that it was
>> written
>> > >> by Glenn Wichman and Michael Toy at UC Santa Cruz ca. 1980, using the
>> > >> `curses` library (Ken Arnold's original, not Mary Ann's rewrite).
>> I've seen
>> > >> at least one place that indicates it first ran on 6th Edition, but
>> that
>> > >> doesn't sound right to me. The first reference I can find in BSD is
>> in 2.79
>> > >> ("rogue.doc"), which also appears to be the first release to ship
>> curses.
>> > >>
>> > >> Anyone have any info? Thanks!
>> > >>
>> > >>         - Dan C.
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > > Sent from a handheld expect more typos than usual
>> > >
>>
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