[TUHS] mainframe $ budgets [was Re: Re: SNOBOL and RATSNO
Charles H Sauer (he/him)
sauer at technologists.com
Wed Aug 10 08:49:50 AEST 2022
And, of course, it should be noted that $50K was significantly more than
typical annual salaries for researchers back then.
On 8/9/2022 3:58 PM, Marc Donner wrote:
> LOL
>
> I joined IBM Research in Yorktown in 1978. I was an electrical engineer
> and one of the first problems I was given was modeling a novel concept
> for an X-Y touch panel. I realized that the model is basically solving
> Laplace's equation in the plane. I was not a programmer at the time, so
> I asked what was the recommended thing for that. I was told APL, so I
> grabbed a manual and got to work.
>
> Within a day or two I had a nice solver working and was getting useful
> results.
>
> (Of course, solving Laplace in the plane by relaxation is the slowest
> possible way to get to the answer, but I didn't know much about
> numerical methods back in those days.)
>
> The next week I got a visit from the same IT weenies who had bothered
> you. They told me that in my first week on the job I had managed to be
> the biggest consumer of CPU cycles on the 370/168 and that I had to
> learn to program in PL/I because compiled was better than interpreted.
> It took me several weeks to get it working, since PL/I was such a pain
> in the neck and I had to learn all sorts of stuff about how numbers were
> represented in the hardware.
>
> Obviously my time was worth less than the computer's.
>
> Bleh.
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> On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 4:43 PM Charles H Sauer (he/him)
> <sauer at technologists.com <mailto:sauer at technologists.com>> wrote:
>
> Early on in my career at IBM Yorktown, ca. 1976, I was submitting many
> long running simulation jobs to the 360/91 there. At one point, the
> head
> of computer systems (I.T. if you will) wrote to the head of computer
> sciences (my department) complaining that I had just spent $50K over
> some short period, asking if this was justified. My management shrugged
> it off, encouraged me to continue what I was doing. I might still have
> the letter somewhere.
>
> A couple of years later, while on the faculty at U.T. Austin, one of
> the
> main budgetary items in research grant proposals was purchase of
> mini-computers, assuming those were a more efficient use of funds than
> paying for time at the campus computing center (then using CDC 6600 and
> successors).
>
> COFF?
>
> Charlie
>
> On 8/9/2022 3:19 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
>
> > Computing budgets were tiny: You had only so many $$$ for your
> runs and
> > if you made
> > too many, you'd run out of $$$ before you were done (more
> applicable as
> > a student than
> > as a professional post school though). Consequently your time was
> > plentiful and
> > computer time was scarce.
>
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