[TUHS] Old screen editors

Rob Pike robpike at gmail.com
Tue Mar 29 18:29:52 AEST 2022


I used SOS a bit, but did anyone use Stopgap itself, or only its son?

-rob

On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 11:55 AM Charles H Sauer (he/him)
<sauer at technologists.com> wrote:
>
> Aaah, just what we need, an editor discussion.
>
> My first hands on experience was with PC/IX on an XT. ISC provided INed,
> which I was told was based on the Rand Editor. INed was a gentle
> transition from using XEDIT on VM/370, so I was comfortable with INed.
>
> But one of my Unix mentors persuaded me to use vi, and that has been my
> preferred editor since roughly 1985, assuming you count Vim as vi, since
> I mostly use Vim on Linux, Windows and macOS, only occasionally using
> real vi.
>
> Charlie
>
> On 3/28/2022 7:31 PM, Lawrence Stewart wrote:
> > At the Stanford Information Systems Lab while I was there 1976-81, we had a series of PDP-11s. The first one I remember was an 11/34 running V6 and later V7.  It was later upgraded to, I think a /45 and finally a /70.
> >
> > At first everyone used ed, then Prof. John Gill hacked it to add a command, I think ‘%’ that was the equivalent of .-10,.+10p which on our 9600 baud Hazeltine’s was a glimpse of the future.
> >
> > At some point we got ex/vi, but before that we got the “Rand Editor” re, which was a perfectly
> > functional screen editor, if you squinted a bit.
> >
> > Does anyone here know the place of re in the history?
> >
> > Later, Gill went off for a sabbatical at Yorktown Heights and came back to complain about having
> > to use SOS on the mainframe.  He reported, however, that global search and replace was very fast.
> >
> > -L
> >
> > Also a few years later I got Dave Conroy’s version of microemacs.  I complained about the key bindings and he told me to use the “change configuration” command, or cc.
> >
>
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