[TUHS] Siemens RTL window manager

[George Michaelson via TUHS]

I wound up in tvtwm. I decided I wanted the simplicity of twm and the
framed desktop adjacency of fvwm, and tvtwm was in principle more fluid but
you could make keybindings jump in the virtual region aligned to "desktops"
and keep twm simplicity so I stopped there.

I didn't like fvwm because it reminded me of the OSF/1 CDE and I had
disliked that so it was tainted by association of L&F but was actually
perfectly cromulent.

I liked what Colas? Naboo?? did at INRIA. I think it was LISP and called
Koala or something. Only ran it briefly.

-G

On Tue, Feb 10, 2026 at 9:51 AM Larry McVoy via TUHS <tuhs at tuhs.org> wrote:

> Does anyone remeber ctwm an offshoot of twm?  I ran ctwm for years, finally
> gave in when I switched to Xubuntu and used their manager.  Did so because
> what I was doing was weird and all sorts of stuff didn't work, xubuntu
> just works.
>
> On Mon, Feb 09, 2026 at 09:20:04PM -0500, Briam Rodriguez via TUHS wrote:
> > Took a bit to get it to crank over, and the mouse support is a bit janky
> > (def. not made for a trackpad!) but happy to report it compiles on macos
> > 26.2 using xquartz.
> >
> > If anyone's interested i can supply the patches.
> >
> > -- Briam R.
> >
> > On 2/9/26 11:05 AM, Daria Phoebe Brashear via TUHS wrote:
> > >Every time I spend time manually tiling windows, I think about the
> > >Siemens RTL Window Manager. Despite being approximately X11R4 years
> > >old in terms of coming to Unix, binaries of this built from
> > >X11R3-contrib were still floating around when I started exploring
> > >things past the base environment we were provided; Like the Andrew
> > >Window Manager and the port for X11, the source for this was lost for
> > >a while but unlike wmc, someone found, patched and shared a copy of
> > >the source a while back(+), and I dug out my copy again recently to
> > >hopefully play with.
> > >
> > >Lest the tarball ever become unavailable at the URL from the email,
> > >I've pushed a copy to GitHub here:
> > >https://github.com/dariaphoebe/rtl-wm
> > >
> > >
> > >+https://lists.suckless.org/dev/1112/10398.html
> > >
>
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