[TUHS] Siemens RTL window manager

[Larry McVoy via TUHS]

I think I went there for a bit but somehow ctwm sucked me in.  Maybe it was
the virtual desktops?  That's a big deal for me, I have 6 right now.

On Tue, Feb 10, 2026 at 01:05:47PM +1000, George Michaelson wrote:
> I wound up in tvtwm. I decided I wanted the simplicity of twm and the
> framed desktop adjacency of fvwm, and tvtwm was in principle more fluid but
> you could make keybindings jump in the virtual region aligned to "desktops"
> and keep twm simplicity so I stopped there.
> 
> I didn't like fvwm because it reminded me of the OSF/1 CDE and I had
> disliked that so it was tainted by association of L&F but was actually
> perfectly cromulent.
> 
> I liked what Colas? Naboo?? did at INRIA. I think it was LISP and called
> Koala or something. Only ran it briefly.
> 
> -G
> 
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2026 at 9:51???AM Larry McVoy via TUHS <tuhs at tuhs.org> wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone remeber ctwm an offshoot of twm?  I ran ctwm for years, finally
> > gave in when I switched to Xubuntu and used their manager.  Did so because
> > what I was doing was weird and all sorts of stuff didn't work, xubuntu
> > just works.
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 09, 2026 at 09:20:04PM -0500, Briam Rodriguez via TUHS wrote:
> > > Took a bit to get it to crank over, and the mouse support is a bit janky
> > > (def. not made for a trackpad!) but happy to report it compiles on macos
> > > 26.2 using xquartz.
> > >
> > > If anyone's interested i can supply the patches.
> > >
> > > -- Briam R.
> > >
> > > On 2/9/26 11:05 AM, Daria Phoebe Brashear via TUHS wrote:
> > > >Every time I spend time manually tiling windows, I think about the
> > > >Siemens RTL Window Manager. Despite being approximately X11R4 years
> > > >old in terms of coming to Unix, binaries of this built from
> > > >X11R3-contrib were still floating around when I started exploring
> > > >things past the base environment we were provided; Like the Andrew
> > > >Window Manager and the port for X11, the source for this was lost for
> > > >a while but unlike wmc, someone found, patched and shared a copy of
> > > >the source a while back(+), and I dug out my copy again recently to
> > > >hopefully play with.
> > > >
> > > >Lest the tarball ever become unavailable at the URL from the email,
> > > >I've pushed a copy to GitHub here:
> > > >https://github.com/dariaphoebe/rtl-wm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >+https://lists.suckless.org/dev/1112/10398.html
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > ---
> > Larry McVoy           Retired to fishing
> > http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/boat
> >

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