[TUHS] Fwd: V7 RE

Warner Losh via TUHS tuhs at tuhs.org
Tue Jan 6 02:23:19 AEST 2026


Do you know which product and what happened to it?

Warner

On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 9:22 AM Marc Donner via TUHS <tuhs at tuhs.org> wrote:

> As I understand what Michael Lesk has said about UUCP, it was created to
> bridge a three week gap before a full-fledged networking product was due to
> be released by the product folks.  Somehow that sounds incredibly familiar.
> =====
> mindthegapdialogs.com <https://www.mindthegapdialogs.com>
> north-fork.info <https://www.north-fork.info>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 3, 2026 at 10:09 PM Douglas McIlroy via TUHS <tuhs at tuhs.org>
> wrote:
>
> > I don't remember how it was decided that the time had come for another
> > edition. I volunteered to edit volume 1 of the manual. Andrew Hume
> > took on volume 2, which ultimately split into 2A and 2B. We exercised
> > some judgment about what should be in userland, wheedled contributions
> > to the manual out of folks, and prodded fixes that would minimize the
> > man-page BUGS sections. Maybe we rated the title of release
> > provocateurs.
> >
> > As always in Unix, no one had ultimate authority. The most vivid
> > example in v7 is that I didn't want uucp with its known security
> > holes, but Mike Lesk could not be persuaded to work on closing them.
> > It finally was included on the premise that it posed no new danger
> > since it was already in widespread use.
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > From: Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com>
> > Date: Sat, Jan 3, 2026 at 11:08 AM
> > Subject: Re: V7 RE
> > To: srb gmail <srbourne at gmail.com>
> > Cc: Douglas McIlroy <douglas.mcilroy at dartmouth.edu>
> >
> >
> > Thank you.  Fair enough. I was sure you had been heavily involved.
> > Doug, your memory?
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 3, 2026 at 9:53 AM srb gmail <srbourne at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >   "As I understand it, Dennis did not want to be the "release
> > > engineer" for V7 (I believe srb put it together), but since V7 was
> going
> > to
> > > go outside of Bell to the "general population" in the CS research
> > > community, it seemed like that was a good time to take back some it (by
> > V8
> > > they stopped trying and Research and Summit diverged)."
> > >
> > > Hi Clem, I did some of the release engineering for V7.  Wrote scripts
> to
> > make sure the release tree had
> > > src, bin and man pages and some other cleanup and checks.  Doug I think
> > was the official RE but he would
> > > probably remember better than me.
> > >
> > > Steve
> >
>


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