[TUHS] Fwd: V7 RE

[Marc Donner via TUHS]

I don't remember, but as I recall it never was actually released.  Next
time I see him I'll try to remember to ask.
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On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 11:23 AM Warner Losh <imp at bsdimp.com> wrote:

> Do you know which product and what happened to it?
>
> Warner
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 9:22 AM Marc Donner via TUHS <tuhs at tuhs.org> wrote:
>
>> As I understand what Michael Lesk has said about UUCP, it was created to
>> bridge a three week gap before a full-fledged networking product was due
>> to
>> be released by the product folks.  Somehow that sounds incredibly
>> familiar.
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>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2026 at 10:09 PM Douglas McIlroy via TUHS <tuhs at tuhs.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I don't remember how it was decided that the time had come for another
>> > edition. I volunteered to edit volume 1 of the manual. Andrew Hume
>> > took on volume 2, which ultimately split into 2A and 2B. We exercised
>> > some judgment about what should be in userland, wheedled contributions
>> > to the manual out of folks, and prodded fixes that would minimize the
>> > man-page BUGS sections. Maybe we rated the title of release
>> > provocateurs.
>> >
>> > As always in Unix, no one had ultimate authority. The most vivid
>> > example in v7 is that I didn't want uucp with its known security
>> > holes, but Mike Lesk could not be persuaded to work on closing them.
>> > It finally was included on the premise that it posed no new danger
>> > since it was already in widespread use.
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> > From: Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com>
>> > Date: Sat, Jan 3, 2026 at 11:08 AM
>> > Subject: Re: V7 RE
>> > To: srb gmail <srbourne at gmail.com>
>> > Cc: Douglas McIlroy <douglas.mcilroy at dartmouth.edu>
>> >
>> >
>> > Thank you.  Fair enough. I was sure you had been heavily involved.
>> > Doug, your memory?
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jan 3, 2026 at 9:53 AM srb gmail <srbourne at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >   "As I understand it, Dennis did not want to be the "release
>> > > engineer" for V7 (I believe srb put it together), but since V7 was
>> going
>> > to
>> > > go outside of Bell to the "general population" in the CS research
>> > > community, it seemed like that was a good time to take back some it
>> (by
>> > V8
>> > > they stopped trying and Research and Summit diverged)."
>> > >
>> > > Hi Clem, I did some of the release engineering for V7.  Wrote scripts
>> to
>> > make sure the release tree had
>> > > src, bin and man pages and some other cleanup and checks.  Doug I
>> think
>> > was the official RE but he would
>> > > probably remember better than me.
>> > >
>> > > Steve
>> >
>>
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