On Sat, 16 Nov 2002, Mario Premke wrote:
> Hello Gregg, thanks for your immediate response !
> I recently found the article 'Booting 7th Edition UNIX Images' on the
> 'vmsnet.pdp-11'-Newsgroups:
>
> <--- SNIP --->
>
> ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/sim/sources/
> ftp://minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au/pub/PDP-11-sims/Supnik_2.2d/sources/
>
Try http://simh.trailing-edge.com
bill
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Hello Gregg, thanks for your immediate response !
I recently found the article 'Booting 7th Edition UNIX Images' on the
'vmsnet.pdp-11'-Newsgroups:
<--- SNIP --->
ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/sim/sources/
ftp://minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au/pub/PDP-11-sims/Supnik_2.2d/sources/
Once you get it, you have to compile the simulator. You also need to fetch
the 7th Edition UNIX disk images as well; they are available from the above
ftp sites in the software directory (i.e replace sources with software.
Unpack
the 7th Edition tarball in the same directory as the one you built the
simulator. The only file you require is disks/unix_v7_rl.dsk
<--- SNIP --->
What I wanted to say is that the above ftp-links are dead. You are right, I
should
look for the compressed tarball, but I don't know how the tarball is called
and
looking for 'unix_v7_rl.dsk' on google only leads to other dead links ...
Any hints ?
Mario Premke
----------
> Von: Gregg C Levine <hansolofalcon(a)worldnet.att.net>
> An: pups(a)minnie.tuhs.org
> Betreff: RE: [pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7
> Datum: Samstag, 16. November 2002 14:50
>
> Hello from Gregg C Levine
> How do you mean by that? " The links pointing to the 'unix_v7_rl.dsk'
> image I found are dead ... :-(" You said. How so? As I recall, that file
> that's in there, for unix_v7_rl.dsk" is there, it's a totally different
> UNIX_v7 file name, you need to call it that for the E11 product. For
> SIMH, the full name as rendered by the extraction process from the
> compressed file works.
> -------------------
> Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon(a)worldnet.att.net
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pups-admin(a)minnie.tuhs.org [mailto:pups-admin@minnie.tuhs.org]
> On
> > Behalf Of Mario Premke
> > Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 8:25 AM
> > To: pups(a)minnie.tuhs.org
> > Subject: [pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7
> >
> > Hello,
> > I just read the instructions of how to boot a binary version 7 disk
> image
> > on a ersatz11 pdp11 emulator.
> > The links pointing to the 'unix_v7_rl.dsk' image I found are dead ...
> :-(
> > Are there any other sites where I can download this binary
> distribution ??
> >
> > BTW their are disk dumps of version 7 in the Caldera ancient unix
> archive
> > .. is it possible to boot
> > them on ersatz11 as well ? I tried it a few times without success ...
> > I simply tried it with the following e11.ini (from a newsgroup
> discussion),
> > because I heavily lack
> > PDP 11 hardware knowledge. Nevertheless trying this ini-file and many
> > variations I made of it all
> > end up in a blank emulator screen ...
> >
> > Any ideas will be appreciated
> >
> > Mario Premke
> >
> > ; Set up some terminal devices
> > assign tt0: f1
> > assign tt1: f2
> > set scroll hard
> > ; Make the CPU like an 11/45
> > set cpu dspace
> > set cpu dualregset
> > set cpu mmtraps
> > set cpu pirq
> > set cpu spl
> > set cpu supmode
> > set cpu cpuerr
> > set cpu csm
> > set cpu tstset
> > ; Get rid of unneeded device
> delays
> > set delay dl11 0=0 1=0
> > set delay rl11 0=0 1=0 2=0 3=0 4=0 5=0 6=0 7=0
> > ; Mount the RL02 disk image
> > mount dl0: v7_rl.dsk
> > ; and boot
> > boot dl0:
> >
> >
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Hello from Gregg C Levine
How do you mean by that? " The links pointing to the 'unix_v7_rl.dsk'
image I found are dead ... :-(" You said. How so? As I recall, that file
that's in there, for unix_v7_rl.dsk" is there, it's a totally different
UNIX_v7 file name, you need to call it that for the E11 product. For
SIMH, the full name as rendered by the extraction process from the
compressed file works.
-------------------
Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon(a)worldnet.att.net
------------------------------------------------------------
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"Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pups-admin(a)minnie.tuhs.org [mailto:pups-admin@minnie.tuhs.org]
On
> Behalf Of Mario Premke
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 8:25 AM
> To: pups(a)minnie.tuhs.org
> Subject: [pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7
>
> Hello,
> I just read the instructions of how to boot a binary version 7 disk
image
> on a ersatz11 pdp11 emulator.
> The links pointing to the 'unix_v7_rl.dsk' image I found are dead ...
:-(
> Are there any other sites where I can download this binary
distribution ??
>
> BTW their are disk dumps of version 7 in the Caldera ancient unix
archive
> .. is it possible to boot
> them on ersatz11 as well ? I tried it a few times without success ...
> I simply tried it with the following e11.ini (from a newsgroup
discussion),
> because I heavily lack
> PDP 11 hardware knowledge. Nevertheless trying this ini-file and many
> variations I made of it all
> end up in a blank emulator screen ...
>
> Any ideas will be appreciated
>
> Mario Premke
>
> ; Set up some terminal devices
> assign tt0: f1
> assign tt1: f2
> set scroll hard
> ; Make the CPU like an 11/45
> set cpu dspace
> set cpu dualregset
> set cpu mmtraps
> set cpu pirq
> set cpu spl
> set cpu supmode
> set cpu cpuerr
> set cpu csm
> set cpu tstset
> ; Get rid of unneeded device
delays
> set delay dl11 0=0 1=0
> set delay rl11 0=0 1=0 2=0 3=0 4=0 5=0 6=0 7=0
> ; Mount the RL02 disk image
> mount dl0: v7_rl.dsk
> ; and boot
> boot dl0:
>
>
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Hello,
I just read the instructions of how to boot a binary version 7 disk image
on a ersatz11 pdp11 emulator.
The links pointing to the 'unix_v7_rl.dsk' image I found are dead ... :-(
Are there any other sites where I can download this binary distribution ??
BTW their are disk dumps of version 7 in the Caldera ancient unix archive
.. is it possible to boot
them on ersatz11 as well ? I tried it a few times without success ...
I simply tried it with the following e11.ini (from a newsgroup discussion),
because I heavily lack
PDP 11 hardware knowledge. Nevertheless trying this ini-file and many
variations I made of it all
end up in a blank emulator screen ...
Any ideas will be appreciated
Mario Premke
; Set up some terminal devices
assign tt0: f1
assign tt1: f2
set scroll hard
; Make the CPU like an 11/45
set cpu dspace
set cpu dualregset
set cpu mmtraps
set cpu pirq
set cpu spl
set cpu supmode
set cpu cpuerr
set cpu csm
set cpu tstset
; Get rid of unneeded device delays
set delay dl11 0=0 1=0
set delay rl11 0=0 1=0 2=0 3=0 4=0 5=0 6=0 7=0
; Mount the RL02 disk image
mount dl0: v7_rl.dsk
; and boot
boot dl0:
Hello,
I just read the instructions of how to boot a binary version 7 disk image
on a ersatz11 pdp11 emulator.
The links pointing to the 'unix_v7_rl.dsk' image I found are dead ... :-(
Are there any other sites where I can download this binary distribution ??
BTW their are disk dumps of version 7 in the Caldera ancient unix archive
. is it possible to boot
them on ersatz11 as well ? I tried it a few times without success ...
I simply tried it with the following e11.ini (from a newsgroup discussion),
because I heavily lack
PDP 11 hardware knowledge. Nevertheless trying this ini-file and many
variations I made of it all
end up in a blank emulator screen ...
Any ideas will be appreciated
Mario Premke
(Please, send a return mail to my E-Mail address, since I am not on the
list ..)
; Set up some terminal devices
assign tt0: f1
assign tt1: f2
set scroll hard
; Make the CPU like an 11/45
set cpu dspace
set cpu dualregset
set cpu mmtraps
set cpu pirq
set cpu spl
set cpu supmode
set cpu cpuerr
set cpu csm
set cpu tstset
; Get rid of unneeded device delays
set delay dl11 0=0 1=0
set delay rl11 0=0 1=0 2=0 3=0 4=0 5=0 6=0 7=0
; Mount the RL02 disk image
mount dl0: v7_rl.dsk
; and boot
boot dl0:
I recall a thread about this only a few months ago. Check out the TUHS mail archive - I seem to recall that someone had ported V7 to the x86 architecture. Me, I have a PDP-11/34 in my basement.... -- Ian
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From: Jesper Jacobsson [mailto:jesperjacobsson@yahoo.se]
Sent: Sat 11/9/2002 2:18 PM
To: tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] port of old unices to i386?
Hi there.
I am a linux-user and I came across TUHS for the first time today
actually when I was searching google for old unices. I love linux and
am very interested in the history of unix. For some time I have wanted
to try out some early versions of unix as I am in my early 20's and was
born too late to have been around those days :( I havn't found any
people to ask about this till today :) Anyway, I browsed the
filearchive and I guess the distributions there surely won't work on my
computer. Is there a way to get them work on a i386 computer? Have
someone made any ports of an early unix system to i386 out of
nostalgia? If not, could someone take it on as a hobbyproject so that
new generations of unix-like-OS-users can explore it? It would be both
fun and also very educational to play around with I am sure.
I hope this email gets through and that I didn't annoy you guys.
I have not signed up for this list I just emailed tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org
directly and hoped it would get through :) Please send replies to
jesperjacobsson(a)yahoo.se
Answers would be very appriciated!
Thanks in advance,
Jesper
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Hi there.
I am a linux-user and I came across TUHS for the first time today
actually when I was searching google for old unices. I love linux and
am very interested in the history of unix. For some time I have wanted
to try out some early versions of unix as I am in my early 20's and was
born too late to have been around those days :( I havn't found any
people to ask about this till today :) Anyway, I browsed the
filearchive and I guess the distributions there surely won't work on my
computer. Is there a way to get them work on a i386 computer? Have
someone made any ports of an early unix system to i386 out of
nostalgia? If not, could someone take it on as a hobbyproject so that
new generations of unix-like-OS-users can explore it? It would be both
fun and also very educational to play around with I am sure.
I hope this email gets through and that I didn't annoy you guys.
I have not signed up for this list I just emailed tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org
directly and hoped it would get through :) Please send replies to
jesperjacobsson(a)yahoo.se
Answers would be very appriciated!
Thanks in advance,
Jesper
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Hi Mitch,
you'll find the program enblock.c at
http://www.ba-stuttgart.de/~helbig/os/v6/
that I wrote to prepare the v6 distribution tape for SIMH.
With v7, you need to apply different block sizes like (f0, f1, ... f6 from Keith Bostic):
enblock <f0 >dist.tap
enblock <f1 >>dist.tap
...
enblock <f4 >>dist.tap
enblock 10240 <f5 >>dist.tap
enblock 10240 <f6 >>dist.tap
enblock </dev/null >>dist.tap
Enblock puts an EOF tapemark at the end. The last invocation puts an EOT mark.
Have fun,
Wolfgang
----- Forwarded message from Jorn Barger -----
From: jorn(a)enteract.com (Jorn Barger)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 04:09:15 -0700
I'm not a PUPS subscriber, but I've been browsing the archives and I
wonder if you know anything about this?
In an old Byte (Jan 1981, p200) Sol Libes wrote:
> "UNIX-Like Operating Systems Increasing In Popularity:
> Several software suppliers are now offering UNIX-like
> operating systems that may rival CP/M. The first
> UNIX-like software package, called TYNIX, was released
> for LSI-11 and Heath H-11 systems in 1978 by the
> Boston Children's Museum..."
My guess is that this was Heinz Lycklama's unreleasable LSI-Unix (LSX),
and I've written him to enquire, but haven't heard back yet.
[ you're probably right, but I'd assume that it was a
binary-only release - Warren ]
I'm working on a detailed timeline of Linux prehistory, so I'm also
following your Xenix explorations. I'd really like to know who did the
first x86 Xenix, HCR or MS?
[ I thought it was HCR too, but I could be wrong - Warren ]
----- End of forwarded message from Jorn Barger -----
Hi Folks,
Does anyone know how to build a full distribution tape in Simh format? Or am I over looking something simple? I can boot and run the root RL02 image but would like install the full system. Would like to do the same for the 4.3 and the VAX Simh.
Thanks, Mitch
