Apologies if this is already on the list somewhere.
What's the best way to transfer files in and out of the simh 4.3BSD Wisc
version? I can do it with tape files, but it seems like FTP or ssh or
NFS ought to be possible, and none is behaving at first blush.
Also, what's the recommended way to shut down the system? I shutdown
now to single user, then sync a few times, then ^E, but when I boot
again I get fsck errors serious enough to require a manual fsck (which
generally works fine.)
Thanks,
Mary Ann
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> From: Mary Ann Horton
> What's the best way to transfer files in and out of the simh 4.3BSD Wisc
> version? I can do it with tape files, but it seems like FTP or ssh or
> NFS ought to be possible, and none is behaving at first blush.
Someone should add the equivalent of Ersatz-11's 'DOS' device to SIMH; it's a
pseudo-device that can read files on the host filesystem. (Other stuff too,
but that's the relevant one here.) A short device driver in the emulated OS,
and a program to talk to it, and voila, getting a file into the emulated
system is a short one line command, none of this hassle with putting the bits
on a virtual tape, etc, etc.
I found editing files with 'ed' on my simulated V6 system painful (although i
still have the mental microcode to do it), so I did my editing under Windows
(Epsilon), and then read the file down to the Unix to compile it. Initially I
was doing it by putting the file on a raw virtual pack, and doing something
similar to that tape kludge. Then I got smart, and whipped up a driver for the
DOS device in Ersatz-11, and a program that used it, to allow me to easily
read a file from the Windows filesystem down to the Unix. Going around the
compile-debug-edit loop is totally painless now.
Noel
In the 1980s an important resource for Sun users was the sun-spots
mailing list. I can't find an archive of it, though some digests were
posted to comp.sys.sun and are accessible (with some difficulty)
through Google Groups.
Does anyone know of a complete archive?
-- Richard
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> That's interesting that that sort of thing dates back (at least) to the Labs.
Research couldn't hold a candle to Development on making smooth transitions.
You don't take a telephone switch offline to change a file format or the like.
The development cycle used to be about three years: one year for design,
one for implementation, and one to build a hybrid to bridge the transition.
At 2AM on Sunday, you'd install the hybrid on one of the dual cross-checked
processors at a time, so the switch was never interrupted. Later you'd
dispense with the hybrid the same way.
Doug
> While going through papers recently we found what was I am reasonably
> sure the quote for the first Sun sold in Scotland which might be of some
> interest (inevitably I now don't know where it is, although we did not
> throw it away). We're not sure whether it is for that machine, but we
> are sure that my wife (who isn't on the list) ran it (a 2/120 we think).
> It started out with SunOS 1 (or perhaps before).
In 1984 the Programming Systems Groups in Edinburgh's AI department
was contracted by SERC to evaluate workstations for its "Common Base"
program. We had a Sun 2/120, a Whitechapel MG-1, an Apollo Domain
system, and I think we already had at least one PNX Perq.
We recommended Suns. I can't find the report we wrote anywhere
online, but I'm fairly sure I've seen it in the last couple of years.
Presumably we gave the evaluation 2/120 back to Sun and bought the one
mentioned by Tim (it was called "islay" unless I have become confused)
a bit later, in 1985.
-- Richard
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