Hello,
I just read the instructions of how to boot a binary version 7 disk image
on a ersatz11 pdp11 emulator.
The links pointing to the 'unix_v7_rl.dsk' image I found are dead ... :-(
Are there any other sites where I can download this binary distribution ??
BTW their are disk dumps of version 7 in the Caldera ancient unix archive
.. is it possible to boot
them on ersatz11 as well ? I tried it a few times without success ...
I simply tried it with the following e11.ini (from a newsgroup discussion),
because I heavily lack
PDP 11 hardware knowledge. Nevertheless trying this ini-file and many
variations I made of it all
end up in a blank emulator screen ...
Any ideas will be appreciated
Mario Premke
; Set up some terminal devices
assign tt0: f1
assign tt1: f2
set scroll hard
; Make the CPU like an 11/45
set cpu dspace
set cpu dualregset
set cpu mmtraps
set cpu pirq
set cpu spl
set cpu supmode
set cpu cpuerr
set cpu csm
set cpu tstset
; Get rid of unneeded device delays
set delay dl11 0=0 1=0
set delay rl11 0=0 1=0 2=0 3=0 4=0 5=0 6=0 7=0
; Mount the RL02 disk image
mount dl0: v7_rl.dsk
; and boot
boot dl0:
Hello,
I just read the instructions of how to boot a binary version 7 disk image
on a ersatz11 pdp11 emulator.
The links pointing to the 'unix_v7_rl.dsk' image I found are dead ... :-(
Are there any other sites where I can download this binary distribution ??
BTW their are disk dumps of version 7 in the Caldera ancient unix archive
. is it possible to boot
them on ersatz11 as well ? I tried it a few times without success ...
I simply tried it with the following e11.ini (from a newsgroup discussion),
because I heavily lack
PDP 11 hardware knowledge. Nevertheless trying this ini-file and many
variations I made of it all
end up in a blank emulator screen ...
Any ideas will be appreciated
Mario Premke
(Please, send a return mail to my E-Mail address, since I am not on the
list ..)
; Set up some terminal devices
assign tt0: f1
assign tt1: f2
set scroll hard
; Make the CPU like an 11/45
set cpu dspace
set cpu dualregset
set cpu mmtraps
set cpu pirq
set cpu spl
set cpu supmode
set cpu cpuerr
set cpu csm
set cpu tstset
; Get rid of unneeded device delays
set delay dl11 0=0 1=0
set delay rl11 0=0 1=0 2=0 3=0 4=0 5=0 6=0 7=0
; Mount the RL02 disk image
mount dl0: v7_rl.dsk
; and boot
boot dl0:
I recall a thread about this only a few months ago. Check out the TUHS mail archive - I seem to recall that someone had ported V7 to the x86 architecture. Me, I have a PDP-11/34 in my basement.... -- Ian
________________________________
From: Jesper Jacobsson [mailto:jesperjacobsson@yahoo.se]
Sent: Sat 11/9/2002 2:18 PM
To: tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] port of old unices to i386?
Hi there.
I am a linux-user and I came across TUHS for the first time today
actually when I was searching google for old unices. I love linux and
am very interested in the history of unix. For some time I have wanted
to try out some early versions of unix as I am in my early 20's and was
born too late to have been around those days :( I havn't found any
people to ask about this till today :) Anyway, I browsed the
filearchive and I guess the distributions there surely won't work on my
computer. Is there a way to get them work on a i386 computer? Have
someone made any ports of an early unix system to i386 out of
nostalgia? If not, could someone take it on as a hobbyproject so that
new generations of unix-like-OS-users can explore it? It would be both
fun and also very educational to play around with I am sure.
I hope this email gets through and that I didn't annoy you guys.
I have not signed up for this list I just emailed tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org
directly and hoped it would get through :) Please send replies to
jesperjacobsson(a)yahoo.se
Answers would be very appriciated!
Thanks in advance,
Jesper
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Hi there.
I am a linux-user and I came across TUHS for the first time today
actually when I was searching google for old unices. I love linux and
am very interested in the history of unix. For some time I have wanted
to try out some early versions of unix as I am in my early 20's and was
born too late to have been around those days :( I havn't found any
people to ask about this till today :) Anyway, I browsed the
filearchive and I guess the distributions there surely won't work on my
computer. Is there a way to get them work on a i386 computer? Have
someone made any ports of an early unix system to i386 out of
nostalgia? If not, could someone take it on as a hobbyproject so that
new generations of unix-like-OS-users can explore it? It would be both
fun and also very educational to play around with I am sure.
I hope this email gets through and that I didn't annoy you guys.
I have not signed up for this list I just emailed tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org
directly and hoped it would get through :) Please send replies to
jesperjacobsson(a)yahoo.se
Answers would be very appriciated!
Thanks in advance,
Jesper
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Hi Mitch,
you'll find the program enblock.c at
http://www.ba-stuttgart.de/~helbig/os/v6/
that I wrote to prepare the v6 distribution tape for SIMH.
With v7, you need to apply different block sizes like (f0, f1, ... f6 from Keith Bostic):
enblock <f0 >dist.tap
enblock <f1 >>dist.tap
...
enblock <f4 >>dist.tap
enblock 10240 <f5 >>dist.tap
enblock 10240 <f6 >>dist.tap
enblock </dev/null >>dist.tap
Enblock puts an EOF tapemark at the end. The last invocation puts an EOT mark.
Have fun,
Wolfgang
----- Forwarded message from Jorn Barger -----
From: jorn(a)enteract.com (Jorn Barger)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 04:09:15 -0700
I'm not a PUPS subscriber, but I've been browsing the archives and I
wonder if you know anything about this?
In an old Byte (Jan 1981, p200) Sol Libes wrote:
> "UNIX-Like Operating Systems Increasing In Popularity:
> Several software suppliers are now offering UNIX-like
> operating systems that may rival CP/M. The first
> UNIX-like software package, called TYNIX, was released
> for LSI-11 and Heath H-11 systems in 1978 by the
> Boston Children's Museum..."
My guess is that this was Heinz Lycklama's unreleasable LSI-Unix (LSX),
and I've written him to enquire, but haven't heard back yet.
[ you're probably right, but I'd assume that it was a
binary-only release - Warren ]
I'm working on a detailed timeline of Linux prehistory, so I'm also
following your Xenix explorations. I'd really like to know who did the
first x86 Xenix, HCR or MS?
[ I thought it was HCR too, but I could be wrong - Warren ]
----- End of forwarded message from Jorn Barger -----
Hi Folks,
Does anyone know how to build a full distribution tape in Simh format? Or am I over looking something simple? I can boot and run the root RL02 image but would like install the full system. Would like to do the same for the 4.3 and the VAX Simh.
Thanks, Mitch
"Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog(a)lemis.com> wrote:
> I'll leave it to others to describe the early days. The Berkeley
> Software License Agreement, generally called the BSD license, is
> pretty straightforward, though.
Wrong. The Berkeley Software License Agreement and what is known today as the
"BSD license" are two different things. The latter is the liberal header
Berkeley started prepending around 1988 to files that were totally theirs
without any Bell Labs code. The former was the paper license that went with the
4.3BSD and earlier tapes where Bell, Bell/Berkeley, and pure Berkeley parts
were not distinguished and the entire system could be used only by holders of
UNIX source licenses from AT&T. Although I've never seen it myself, the
Berkeley Software License Agreement could not have been like the liberal
header, it surely had stuff in it telling you that if you share it with anyone,
you must first verify that the recipient has a UNIX source license from AT&T,
etc.
MS
Marco Robado <mar.roba(a)videotron.ca> wrote:
> I would like
> to give examples of a license on which the source of a software was
> delivered in the 70's.
I have the paper license for System V issued by AT&T to Case Western Reserve
University, the famous UNIX source license. I have it buried somewhere in my
papers. If you want it, I can dig it up and fax or snail-mail you a copy.
(Sorry, no scanning. I use the computing technology from the days in question
exclusively.)
> For BSD I found in the
> source of 2.11BSD a reference to "The Berkeley software license
> Agreement"
Yep, same for 4BSD.
> but I don't have a copy of that document.
I don't either.
MS
Hi, I am curently writing an article about the history of open source. I
know all you can find on the Internet about the history of unix and BSD
and the conflict between these two when BSD decided to opensource. But I
could never find a copy of both licenses in the early days. I would like
to give examples of a license on which the source of a software was
delivered in the 70's. I browsed thru the sources of unix v5 and the
only copyright I found was in the code of the c compiler and it just
stated that it was copyrighted by Bell labs in 1972. I would think that
there was some kind of hard copy copyright that came with the tape on
wich the sources were originaly delivered. For BSD I found in the
source of 2.11BSD a reference to "The Berkeley software license
Agreement" but I don't have a copy of that document. I would appreciate
if someone would communicate with me by e-mail or thru this list to give
me some info about all that.
-M.R.-
