12 Mar
2019
12 Mar
'19
10:02 p.m.
TUHS related due to the BTL connection. This came across a mailing list at
work today (as a, "hey, this is cool!" thing; nothing work related) and I
thought some on this list might be interested.
http://www.larryluckham.com/1969%20&%2070%20-%20Bell%20Labs/album/index…
- Dan C.
12 Mar
12 Mar
11:14 p.m.
Very cool. Takes me back when I used to do that ;-) As CMU of us all
system programmers had to do shifts as operators. The thinking was that
if we had do the crappy job too, we would fix things and not let the bugs
build. FWIW: I can not tell which model 360 it is. I think its a 65 or
67. It's not a 91 nor a 40 or 50.
BTW the 'bell' on the console was a fire alarm bell inside of the main CPU
cab. Also what those pics do not reveal is how noisy it was in the machine
rooms. The fans were constantly going.
Clem
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On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:04 PM Dan Cross <crossd(a)gmail.com> wrote:
TUHS related due to the BTL connection. This came
across a mailing list at
work today (as a, "hey, this is cool!" thing; nothing work related) and I
thought some on this list might be interested.
http://www.larryluckham.com/1969%20&%2070%20-%20Bell%20Labs/album/index…
- Dan C.
11:17 p.m.
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:04 PM Dan Cross <crossd(a)gmail.com> wrote:
TUHS related due to the BTL connection. This came across a mailing list a=
t
work today (as a, "hey, this is cool!"
thing; nothing work related) and I
thought some on this list might be interested.
http://www.larryluckham.com/1969%20&%2070%20-%20Bell%20Labs/album/index…
- Dan C.
Must be a different Bell. I wanted to take a picture of me in my lab for my
high school yearbook but no way no how could get permission to bring in a
camera.
Jon
11:29 p.m.
Jon - Dept Head vs. peon maybe ;-)
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On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:24 PM Jon Steinhart <jon(a)fourwinds.com> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:04 PM Dan Cross
<crossd(a)gmail.com> wrote:
TUHS related due to the BTL connection. This came across a mailing list
a=
t
work today (as a, "hey, this is cool!"
thing; nothing work related) and I
thought some on this list might be interested.
http://www.larryluckham.com/1969%20&%2070%20-%20Bell%20Labs/album/index…
- Dan C.
Must be a different Bell. I wanted to take a picture of me in my lab for
my
high school yearbook but no way no how could get permission to bring in a
camera.
Jon
11:42 p.m.
On 3/12/19, Clem Cole <clemc(a)ccc.com> wrote:
Very cool. Takes me back when I used to do that ;-)
As CMU of us all
system programmers had to do shifts as operators. The thinking was that
if we had do the crappy job too, we would fix things and not let the bugs
build. FWIW: I can not tell which model 360 it is. I think its a 65 or
67. It's not a 91 nor a 40 or 50.
That's definitely a S/360 model 50 that the operator is hiding in.
-Paul W.
13 Mar
13 Mar
6:17 a.m.
On Tuesday, 12 March 2019 at 13:14:58 -0400, Clem Cole wrote:
Very cool. Takes me back when I used to do that ;-)
As CMU of us
all system programmers had to do shifts as operators. The thinking
was that if we had do the crappy job too, we would fix things and
not let the bugs build.
Clearly a different attitude from ours. We always felt honoured to be
let into the Holy of Holies (behind not one, but two armoured doors).
Greg
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7:37 a.m.
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019, Clem Cole wrote:
Very cool. Takes me back when I used to do that ;-)
As CMU of us all
system programmers had to do shifts as operators. The thinking was
that if we had do the crappy job too, we would fix things and not let
the bugs build. FWIW: I can not tell which model 360 it is. I think
its a 65 or 67. It's not a 91 nor a 40 or 50.
One of the best unpaid jobs I ever did was being a student 360/50 operator
on the night shift. Boy, the stories that I could tell, such as card
decks being sticky-taped together, paper tape stuck to the spool, etc...
And the time that I switched off the 029 keypunch printer to not print the
"PRI=6" JCL, thereby screwing up the operator's disk schedule... I got my
deck back, unsubmitted, with the job card torn into a neat spiral.
I actually met him at a DECUS conference, and he was most amiable about
it.
And no, it doesn't look like a /50 console to me.
-- Dave
2:41 p.m.
On 2019-Mar-13 12:37:47 +1100, Dave Horsfall <dave(a)horsfall.org> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019, Clem Cole wrote:
> the bugs build. FWIW: I can not tell which model 360 it is. I think
> its a 65 or 67. It's not a 91 nor a 40 or 50.
...
And no, it doesn't look like a /50 console to me.
Well, the model number should be visible in
http://www.larryluckham.com/1969%20&%2070%20-%20Bell%20Labs/album/slide…
but it's too blurred for me to make it out (even knowing that the first
2 digits are "20", I can't make them out).
I've looked through both the IBM history pages and the WP pages and I'm
reasonably confident it's a /50. Compare the above photo with
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/IBM_system_360-50…
or https://www.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/mainframe/mainframe_2423PH2050.html
It's definitely not a /65 based on the leftmost subpanel - see
https://www.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/mainframe/mainframe_2423PH2065C.ht…
The only /67 photos I can find show a similarly blank subpanel.
The other S360 models all had radically different front panels (much lower
on the low-end models and much wider on the high-end models).
--
Peter Jeremy
15 Mar
15 Mar
4:12 a.m.
On 3/13/19 1:41 AM, Peter Jeremy wrote:
On 2019-Mar-13 12:37:47 +1100, Dave Horsfall
<dave(a)horsfall.org> wrote:
http://infolab.stanford.edu/pub/voy/museum/pictures/display/IBM2050ConsoleR…
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019, Clem Cole wrote:
> the bugs build. FWIW: I can not tell which model 360 it is. I think
> its a 65 or 67. It's not a 91 nor a 40 or 50.
...
> And no, it doesn't look like a /50 console to me. 
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