26 May
2022
26 May
'22
8:39 p.m.
> If you’re a *current* member of these societies
then you should have good access to journal content.
I believe this is true for ACM, but for IEEE not so
much. You have to pay for a digital library membership _in addition to_ your standard
membership
ACM is the same. At $99/year membership is a bargain by ordinary
professional society standards. But they charge an additional $99 for
access to 21st-century Digital Library.content.
Doug
26 May
26 May
8:43 p.m.
On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 4:40 PM Douglas McIlroy <
douglas.mcilroy(a)dartmouth.edu> wrote:
Sigh. I stand corrected. Thanks, Doug.
- Dan C.
> If you’re
a *current* member of these societies then you should have
good access to journal
content.
I believe this is true for ACM, but for IEEE not
so much. You have to pay
for a digital library membership _in addition to_ your
standard membership
ACM is the same. At $99/year membership is a bargain by ordinary
professional society standards. But they charge an additional $99 for
access to 21st-century Digital Library.content.
8:53 p.m.
Awe are a little drifting from core UNIX but FWIW: With the noise made
about the ACM DL is more freely available and the 'advertisement' they sent
saying the earliest UNIX paper was now there for anyone to examine (from
the 1973 SOSP), I just tried to download both without signing in and with
-- I got the same result. You get the abstract - not the paper which was
a tad disappointing. FWIW: from the SOSP was Jerry Popek's famous paper on
requirements for VM -- same result.
I understand the problem, (USENIX also has the same one) but it seems like
if they are going to scan things, scan all of it, not just the abstract.
ᐧ
On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 4:40 PM Douglas McIlroy <
douglas.mcilroy(a)dartmouth.edu> wrote:
> If you’re
a *current* member of these societies then you should have
good access to journal
content.
I believe this is true for ACM, but for IEEE not
so much. You have to pay
for a digital library membership _in addition to_ your
standard membership
ACM is the same. At $99/year membership is a bargain by ordinary
professional society standards. But they charge an additional $99 for
access to 21st-century Digital Library.content.
Doug
9:13 p.m.
It is disappointing that the SOSP versions are not available, but I
suspect the real problem here is publication protocol at the time. It
was often the case that when conference papers were headed for CACM the
conferences only published the abstracts in the proceedings.
I long abandoned my paper archives that might have included these, so I
don't know for sure whether the paper proceedings would have had the
full papers or not.
However, for both the UNIX & Popek/Goldberg papers, the full CACM
versions do seem to be freely available, with the expected annotation
"This is a revised version of a paper presented at the Fourth
ACM Symposium on Operating Systems Principles, IBM Thomas
J. Watson Research Center, Yorktown Heights, New York, October
15-17, 1973."
https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/361011.361061
https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/361011.361073
On 5/26/2022 3:53 PM, Clem Cole wrote:
Awe are a little drifting from core UNIX but FWIW:
With the noise made
about the ACM DL is more freely available and the 'advertisement' they
sent saying the earliest UNIX paper was now there for anyone to examine
(from the 1973 SOSP), I just tried to download both without signing in
and with -- I got the same result. You get the abstract - not the
paper which was a tad disappointing. FWIW: from the SOSP was Jerry
Popek's famous paper on requirements for VM -- same result.
I understand the problem, (USENIX also has the same one) but it seems
like if they are going to scan things, scan all of it, not just the
abstract.
ᐧ
On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 4:40 PM Douglas McIlroy
<douglas.mcilroy(a)dartmouth.edu <mailto:douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu>>
wrote:
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> If you’re a *current* member of these
societies then you should
have good access to journal content.
I believe this is true for ACM, but for IEEE not
so much. You have
to pay for a digital library membership _in addition to_ your
standard membership
ACM is the same. At $99/year membership is a bargain by ordinary
professional society standards. But they charge an additional $99 for
access to 21st-century Digital Library.content.
Doug
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