There was a guy in production at Google using Unix TECO as his main editor when I joined in 2002. He was astonished that I recognized it, but I had used TECO in the early 1970s and, although I had no desire to return to it, I did know it well enough to exclaim its presence when watching over his shoulder. So yes, apologies for not remembering his name, but it was at least one person's default editor. -rob On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 10:19???AM Adam Thornton <athornton(a)gmail.com> wrote: > There are certainly teco implementations for Unix, although I don't know > if it was ever anyone's default editor anywhere. Indeed, there are > multiple implementations: I switched from a C teco implementation to pyteco > in the Rubin Science Platform JupyterLab implementation (its utility is of > course dubious, but this is part of both my nefarious plan to make Jupyter > not merely mean "Julia, Python, and R", but to use that "e" -- and > reassociate it with the "t" -- by making it mean "Julia, Python, Teco, and > R", and also to include an easter egg for a fellow project member who is a > teco fan). > > The first Emacs I used was GNU emacs at already version...16 or > something? In 1989, on ... I don't remember what the main system I used at > the UT Austin Chaos Lab was, actually; we had an SGI Iris, but that wasn't > the machine I did my editing on. But by 1989 it was certainly > well-available and established. > > On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 5:04???PM Will Senn <will.senn(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> As a longtime user and lover of ed/ex/vi, I don't know much about emacs, >> but lately I've been using it more (as it seems like any self-respecting >> lisper, has to at least have a passing acquaintance with it). I recently >> went off and got MACLISP running in ITS. As part of that exploration, I >> used EMACS, but not just any old emacs, emacs in it's first incarnation as >> a set of TECO macros. To me, it just seemed like EMACS. I won't bore you >> with the details - imagine lots of control and escape sequences, many of >> which are the same today as then. This was late 70's stuff. >> >> My question for the group is - when did emacs arrive in unix and was it a >> full fledged text editor when it came or was it sitting on top of some >> other subssystem in unix? Was TECO ever on unix? >> >> Will >> >

RMS claimed he modified the earlier, freely redistributable, version of Gosling Emacs, not the one Unipress sold. The skull and crossbones referenced above is at https://donhopkins.com/home/archive/emacs/skull-and-crossbones.txt

On Thu, Aug 3, 2023, 6:19 PM Adam Thornton <athornton(a)gmail.com> wrote: There are certainly teco implementations for Unix, although I don't know if it was ever anyone's default editor aInywhere.  Indeed, there are multiple implementations: I switched from a C teco implementation to pyteco in the Rubin Science Platform JupyterLab implementation (its utility is of course dubious, but this is part of both my nefarious plan to make Jupyter not merely mean "Julia, Python, and R", but to use that "e" -- and reassociate it with the "t" -- by making it mean "Julia, Python, Teco, and R", and also to include an easter egg for a fellow project member who is a teco fan). The first Emacs I used was GNU emacs at already version...16 or something?  In 1989, on ... I don't remember what the main system I used at the UT Austin Chaos Lab was, actually; we had an SGI Iris, but that wasn't the machine I did my editing on.  But by 1989 it was certainly well-available and established. We used some stripped down emacs in 1985 on the vax 11/750 running 4.2bsd.   I built micro emacs for my DEC Rainbow under MS-DOS in the same time period... Warner On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 5:04 PM Will Senn <will.senn(a)gmail.com> wrote: As a longtime user and lover of ed/ex/vi, I don't know much about emacs, but lately I've been using it more (as it seems like any self-respecting lisper, has to at least have a passing acquaintance with it). I recently went off and got MACLISP running in ITS. As part of that exploration, I used EMACS, but not just any old emacs, emacs in it's first incarnation as a set of TECO macros. To me, it just seemed like EMACS. I won't bore you with the details - imagine lots of control and escape sequences, many of which are the same today as then. This was late 70's stuff. My question for the group is - when did emacs arrive in unix and was it a full fledged text editor when it came or was it sitting on top of some other subssystem in unix? Was TECO ever on unix? Will

The first Emacs I used was GNU emacs at already version...16 or something? In 1989,

http://wiki.c2.com/?TecoEditor Cantrell’s teco was pretty fast and used a lot less resources than any of the Unix EMACS invocations. Gosling / CMU EMACS showed up in 81 on the Vax and is where mocklisp came from. Zimmerman EMACS may have been earlier at MIT but Steve sold it to CCA so it was not nearly as widespread. Noel may know more. We got a license from CCA in ‘84 and shipped it on the Masscomp systems. Rms did like a number things gosling did and start to rewrite it. (The defaults were different from ITS was one of his issues). He released his version around 85. FWIW: There is still some bad blood wrt to that whole path best I can tell. I think there were a couple of others. On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 8:04 PM Will Senn <will.senn(a)gmail.com> wrote: -- Sent from a handheld expect more typos than usual

Gosling / CMU EMACS showed up in 81 on the Vax and is where mocklisp came from.