16 Sep
2019
16 Sep
'19
9:48 p.m.
A major topic on this list has been the preservation of computer
history, through museums that collect and operate old hardware,
software emulation of past hardware and software systems, and data
recovery from newly discovered, but previously thought to be lost,
archives.
I came across an article today about another major industry that has
been exceedingly careless about preserving its history:
Wipe Out: When the BBC Kept Erasing Its Own History
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/wipe-out-when-the-bbc-kept-erasing-its-o…
It is a must-read for Dr Who fans on this list.
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16 Sep
16 Sep
10:24 p.m.
Hello!
Thank you Nelson. That confirms largely what I've largely already
known from other sources. Suffice to say a lot of the Doctor Who
episodes confirmed are being restored, just not the way we wanted.....
However everything from Third down to the latest is available.
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Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8(a)gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 5:56 PM Nelson H. F. Beebe <beebe(a)math.utah.edu> wrote:
A major topic on this list has been the preservation of computer
history, through museums that collect and operate old hardware,
software emulation of past hardware and software systems, and data
recovery from newly discovered, but previously thought to be lost,
archives.
I came across an article today about another major industry that has
been exceedingly careless about preserving its history:
Wipe Out: When the BBC Kept Erasing Its Own History
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/wipe-out-when-the-bbc-kept-erasing-its-o…
It is a must-read for Dr Who fans on this list.
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- Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 -
- University of Utah FAX: +1 801 581 4148 -
- Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB Internet e-mail: beebe(a)math.utah.edu -
- 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe(a)acm.org beebe(a)computer.org -
- Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/ -
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11:44 p.m.
On Mon, 16 Sep 2019, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote:
[...]
I came across an article today about another major
industry that has
been exceedingly careless about preserving its history:
Wipe Out: When the BBC Kept Erasing Its Own History
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/wipe-out-when-the-bbc-kept-erasing-its-o…
It is a must-read for Dr Who fans on this list.
Indeed; quite shameful, really.
-- Dave
17 Sep
17 Sep
12:28 a.m.
On 2019-Sep-16 15:48:36 -0600, "Nelson H. F. Beebe" <beebe(a)math.utah.edu>
wrote:
I came across an article today about another major
industry that has
been exceedingly careless about preserving its history:
Wipe Out: When the BBC Kept Erasing Its Own History
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/wipe-out-when-the-bbc-kept-erasing-its-o…
It is a must-read for Dr Who fans on this list.
It didn't only affect TV, much of The Goons originals were also destroyed (at least
one episode now sold by the BBC is an off-air recording by a fan because that's the
best extant copy).
And NASA destroyed the tapes holding the original Apollo 11 moonwalk
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11_missing_tapes).
--
Peter Jeremy
7:46 a.m.
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019, Peter Jeremy wrote:
On 2019-Sep-16 15:48:36 -0600, "Nelson H. F.
Beebe" <beebe(a)math.utah.edu> wrote:
Toei Animation wiped the audio masters for Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z.
What remains is low-quality optical audio from film prints. (They did the
same for Dragon Ball GT but some TV stations managed to preserve the
audio, so it's not as much of a problem as it is for the previous series.)
-uso.
I came across an article today about another
major industry that has
been exceedingly careless about preserving its history:
Wipe Out: When the BBC Kept Erasing Its Own History
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/wipe-out-when-the-bbc-kept-erasing-its-o…
It is a must-read for Dr Who fans on this list.
It didn't only affect TV, much of The Goons originals were also destroyed (at least
one episode now sold by the BBC is an off-air recording by a fan because that's the
best extant copy).
And NASA destroyed the tapes holding the original Apollo 11 moonwalk
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11_missing_tapes). 
5:21 a.m.
"Nelson H. F. Beebe" <beebe(a)math.utah.edu> writes:
I came across an article today about another major
industry that has
been exceedingly careless about preserving its history
It's an extenssion of the hype cycle. It starts like this:
1. Technology Trigger
2. Peak of Inflated Expectations
3. Trough of Disillusionment
4. Slope of Enlightenment
5. Plateau of Productivity
What is usually not pictured is the rest of the curve:
6. Dip of Sunset Technology.
7. Valley of Obsolete Stuff.
8. Throwing Away of Old Junk.
9. Resurge of Nostalgia.
10. Frantic Search on Ebay.
11. The Even Higher Peak of Collector's Holy Grail.
3:33 p.m.
Lars - I love it. I've never seen that part of the curve spelled out and
labeled before.
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On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 1:21 AM Lars Brinkhoff <lars(a)nocrew.org> wrote:
"Nelson H. F. Beebe"
<beebe(a)math.utah.edu> writes:
I came across an article today about another
major industry that has
been exceedingly careless about preserving its history
It's an extenssion of the hype cycle. It starts like this:
1. Technology Trigger
2. Peak of Inflated Expectations
3. Trough of Disillusionment
4. Slope of Enlightenment
5. Plateau of Productivity
What is usually not pictured is the rest of the curve:
6. Dip of Sunset Technology.
7. Valley of Obsolete Stuff.
8. Throwing Away of Old Junk.
9. Resurge of Nostalgia.
10. Frantic Search on Ebay.
11. The Even Higher Peak of Collector's Holy Grail.
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