26 Feb
2017
26 Feb
'17
5:31 a.m.
The 'oldest' I have is a set of SCO UNIX 3.2V4.0 and V4.2
Mail me if you're interested
Cheers,
rudi
Message: 1
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 16:55:25 -0800
From: Cory Smelosky <b4(a)gewt.net>
To: tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0
Message-ID:
<1488070525.154368.892915216.18B7F7A4(a)webmail.messagingengine.com>
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Hey,
Does anyone have any of the floppies for OpenDesktop 2.0.0? Mine got
damaged in a dehumidifier failure before they got to California. The
only survivor was of all things...the QIC-24 tape (which I have read
fine)
sco-tape> tar tf file0 | more
./tmp/_lbl/prd=odtps/typ=u386/rel=2.0.0a/vol=1
Anyone know a good starting point for attempting to install it in to a
VM? ;)
--
Cory Smelosky
b4(a)gewt.net
26 Feb
26 Feb
3:07 p.m.
The 'oldest' I have is a set of SCO UNIX
3.2V4.0 and V4.2
Mail me if you're interested
Cheers,
rudi
I seem to have CD and floppy images for SCO 2.1.
drwxr-xr-x 2 corey 1002 4096 Feb 3 2006 ./
drwxr-xr-x 27 corey 1002 20480 Feb 24 09:13 ../
-rw-r--r-- 1 corey 1002 156 Oct 9 2006 README
-rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 564658176 Feb 2 2006 SCO-2.1-CD.iso*
-rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 hba.dd*
-rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 id.dd*
-rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 niu1.dd*
-rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 niu2.dd*
I'm happy to provide them if anyone is interested.
--corey
6:50 p.m.
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017, at 07:07, Corey Lindsly wrote:
I must archive EVERYTHING! ;)
--
Cory Smelosky
b4(a)gewt.net
The 'oldest' I have is a set of SCO
UNIX 3.2V4.0 and V4.2
Mail me if you're interested
Cheers,
rudi
I seem to have CD and floppy images for SCO 2.1.
drwxr-xr-x 2 corey 1002 4096 Feb 3 2006 ./
drwxr-xr-x 27 corey 1002 20480 Feb 24 09:13 ../
-rw-r--r-- 1 corey 1002 156 Oct 9 2006 README
-rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 564658176 Feb 2 2006 SCO-2.1-CD.iso*
-rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 hba.dd*
-rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 id.dd*
-rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 niu1.dd*
-rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 niu2.dd*
I'm happy to provide them if anyone is interested.
--corey 
27 Feb
27 Feb
7:53 a.m.
Hi Corey
can I have a copy?
thanks
Rico
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Corey Lindsly <corey(a)lod.com> wrote:
The 'oldest' I have is a set of SCO
UNIX 3.2V4.0 and V4.2
Mail me if you're interested
Cheers,
rudi
I seem to have CD and floppy images for SCO 2.1.
drwxr-xr-x 2 corey 1002 4096 Feb 3 2006 ./
drwxr-xr-x 27 corey 1002 20480 Feb 24 09:13 ../
-rw-r--r-- 1 corey 1002 156 Oct 9 2006 README
-rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 564658176 Feb 2 2006 SCO-2.1-CD.iso*
-rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 hba.dd*
-rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 id.dd*
-rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 niu1.dd*
-rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 niu2.dd*
I'm happy to provide them if anyone is interested.
--corey
9:51 a.m.
Count me in. I put my hand up for a copy of SCO when they were offering free
samplers in the early 2000s, but never heard back from them.
I wanted to compare it with Linux ...
Thanks
Wesley Parish
Quoting Rico Pajarola <rp(a)servium.ch>ch>:
Hi Corey
can I have a copy?
thanks
Rico
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Corey Lindsly <corey(a)lod.com> wrote:
"I have supposed that he who buys a Method means to learn it." - Ferdinand Sor,
Method for Guitar
"A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on." -- Samuel
Goldwyn
The 'oldest' I have is a set of SCO
UNIX 3.2V4.0 and V4.2
Mail me if you're interested
Cheers,
rudi
I seem to have CD and floppy images for SCO 2.1.
drwxr-xr-x 2 corey 1002 4096 Feb 3 2006 ./
drwxr-xr-x 27 corey 1002 20480 Feb 24 09:13 ../
-rw-r--r-- 1 corey 1002 156 Oct 9 2006 README
-rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 564658176 Feb 2 2006 SCO-2.1-CD.iso*
-rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 hba.dd*
-rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 id.dd*
-rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 niu1.dd*
-rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 niu2.dd*
I'm happy to provide them if anyone is interested.
--corey
1:57 p.m.
I'm in if it can be distributed.
Is it something TUHS can archive? Sorry if that's a newbie question.
On 2/27/2017 4:51 AM, Wesley Parish wrote:
Count me in. I put my hand up for a copy of SCO when
they were offering free
samplers in the early 2000s, but never heard back from them.
I wanted to compare it with Linux ...
Thanks
Wesley Parish
Quoting Rico Pajarola <rp(a)servium.ch>ch>:
Hi Corey
can I have a copy?
thanks
Rico
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Corey Lindsly <corey(a)lod.com> wrote:
"I have supposed that he who buys a Method means to learn it." - Ferdinand
Sor,
Method for Guitar
"A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on." -- Samuel
Goldwyn
The
'oldest' I have is a set of SCO UNIX 3.2V4.0 and V4.2
Mail me if you're interested
Cheers,
rudi
I seem to have CD and floppy images for SCO 2.1.
drwxr-xr-x 2 corey 1002 4096 Feb 3 2006 ./
drwxr-xr-x 27 corey 1002 20480 Feb 24 09:13 ../
-rw-r--r-- 1 corey 1002 156 Oct 9 2006 README
-rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 564658176 Feb 2 2006 SCO-2.1-CD.iso*
-rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 hba.dd*
-rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 id.dd*
-rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 niu1.dd*
-rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 niu2.dd*
I'm happy to provide them if anyone is interested.
--corey
4:49 p.m.
Count me in. I put my hand up for a copy of SCO when they were offering free
samplers in the early 2000s, but never heard back from them.
I wanted to compare it with Linux ...
Thanks
Wesley Parish
For anyone interested, the SCO 2.1 images are available for download here:
http://lod.com/sco
A few things:
1. I am having some difficulty getting it to install in VMWare ESXi 5. The
floppy image boots, and I get some way into the install process, but SCO
install does not see the virtual CD-ROM drive. Thus, I'm presented with
network install options only. At this point, there are a few options:
(a) Track down the driver and/or VMWare settings to fix the CD-ROM
visibility, and proceed with the install.
(b) Set up a SCO network install server, and proceed.
(c) Try the install on legacy physical hardware instead.
Of course, your experience may differ.
2. There's actually an installation guide available for this OS here:
ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd211/eng211.txt
As well as a lot of driver updates and other good stuff:
ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/
3. Anyone who wants to try SCO for the first time may find 5.0.7 a much
easier go. It will install directly from CD in VMWare, and there is more
driver support for it. To me, it has a very "pure" UNIX feel to it,
other than the gratuitous and absurd use of symbolic links all over the
file system. If you're interested in trying-out that version, let me know
and I'll put up those images for download too.
Regards,
--corey
5:12 p.m.
Corey Lindsly wrote:
I have a note to myself to try an install in PCem later today.
Count me in. I
put my hand up for a copy of SCO when they were offering free
samplers in the early 2000s, but never heard back from them.
I wanted to compare it with Linux ...
Thanks
Wesley Parish
For anyone interested, the SCO 2.1 images are available for download here:
http://lod.com/sco
A few things:
1. I am having some difficulty getting it to install in VMWare ESXi 5. The
floppy image boots, and I get some way into the install process, but SCO
install does not see the virtual CD-ROM drive. Thus, I'm presented with
network install options only. At this point, there are a few options:
(a) Track down the driver and/or VMWare settings to fix the CD-ROM
visibility, and proceed with the install.
(b) Set up a SCO network install server, and proceed.
(c) Try the install on legacy physical hardware instead.
Of course, your experience may differ.
2. There's actually an installation guide available for this OS here:
ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd211/eng211.txt
As well as a lot of driver updates and other good stuff:
ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/
3. Anyone who wants to try SCO for the first time may find 5.0.7 a much
easier go. It will install directly from CD in VMWare, and there is more
driver support for it. To me, it has a very "pure" UNIX feel to it,
other than the gratuitous and absurd use of symbolic links all over the
file system. If you're interested in trying-out that version, let me know
and I'll put up those images for download too.
Regards,
--corey
7:59 p.m.
I've been trying this myself today, both on ESXi 6.0U2, and I went and
installed ESXi 5.0 as a guest under 6.0U2 :)
I notice that when I put the CD as IDE 1:0 (bus 1, master) it doesn't
find it. When I put it as 0:0 (bus 0, master), it hangs loading the IDE
driver.
I suspect it doesn't know about bus 1, so it doesn't hang but also
doesn't find it, and there's something wrong with either VMware's
implementation of IDE, or SCO's handling of it - or both. I've read
where lots of devices in VMware are just to "perfect" for some device
drivers to deal with. One glaring example was you couldn't use the LSI
SAS driver with Solaris 11. It would either hang or panic, I forget
which. Switch to LSI Parallel SCSI, and it was fine.
Anyway, I suspect that there's something in the IDE driver that's
ignoring bus1, and hanging with VMware's implementation of it.
I'm going to try installing ESXi 4.0 and see what happens.
On another note, it's possible I just need to install the hard drive as
IDE from the get-go, have the CDROM as slave on bus 0 and see what happens.
Any pointers?
thanks!
art k.
On 2/27/2017 12:12 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Corey Lindsly wrote:
I have a note to myself to try an install in PCem later today.
Count me
in. I put my hand up for a copy of SCO when they were
offering free
samplers in the early 2000s, but never heard back from them.
I wanted to compare it with Linux ...
Thanks
Wesley Parish
For anyone interested, the SCO 2.1 images are available for download
here:
http://lod.com/sco
A few things:
1. I am having some difficulty getting it to install in VMWare ESXi
5. The
floppy image boots, and I get some way into the install process, but SCO
install does not see the virtual CD-ROM drive. Thus, I'm presented with
network install options only. At this point, there are a few options:
(a) Track down the driver and/or VMWare settings to fix the CD-ROM
visibility, and proceed with the install.
(b) Set up a SCO network install server, and proceed.
(c) Try the install on legacy physical hardware instead.
Of course, your experience may differ.
2. There's actually an installation guide available for this OS here:
ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd211/eng211.txt
As well as a lot of driver updates and other good stuff:
ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/
3. Anyone who wants to try SCO for the first time may find 5.0.7 a much
easier go. It will install directly from CD in VMWare, and there is more
driver support for it. To me, it has a very "pure" UNIX feel to it,
other than the gratuitous and absurd use of symbolic links all over the
file system. If you're interested in trying-out that version, let me
know
and I'll put up those images for download too.
Regards,
--corey
8:06 p.m.
Arthur Krewat wrote:
I've been trying this myself today, both on ESXi
6.0U2, and I went and
installed ESXi 5.0 as a guest under 6.0U2 :)
I notice that when I put the CD as IDE 1:0 (bus 1, master) it doesn't
find it. When I put it as 0:0 (bus 0, master), it hangs loading the IDE
driver.
I suspect it doesn't know about bus 1, so it doesn't hang but also
doesn't find it, and there's something wrong with either VMware's
implementation of IDE, or SCO's handling of it - or both. I've read
where lots of devices in VMware are just to "perfect" for some device
drivers to deal with. One glaring example was you couldn't use the LSI
SAS driver with Solaris 11. It would either hang or panic, I forget
which. Switch to LSI Parallel SCSI, and it was fine.
Anyway, I suspect that there's something in the IDE driver that's
ignoring bus1, and hanging with VMware's implementation of it.
I'm going to try installing ESXi 4.0 and see what happens.
On another note, it's possible I just need to install the hard drive as
IDE from the get-go, have the CDROM as slave on bus 0 and see what happens.
Any pointers?
thanks!
art k.
On 2/27/2017 12:12 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
bochs' IDE implementation results in it crashing and in qemu it panic()s
before loading the installer.
Corey Lindsly wrote:
I have a note to myself to try an install in PCem later today.
Count me
in. I put my hand up for a copy of SCO when they were
offering free
samplers in the early 2000s, but never heard back from them.
I wanted to compare it with Linux ...
Thanks
Wesley Parish
For anyone interested, the SCO 2.1 images are available for download
here:
http://lod.com/sco
A few things:
1. I am having some difficulty getting it to install in VMWare ESXi
5. The
floppy image boots, and I get some way into the install process, but SCO
install does not see the virtual CD-ROM drive. Thus, I'm presented with
network install options only. At this point, there are a few options:
(a) Track down the driver and/or VMWare settings to fix the CD-ROM
visibility, and proceed with the install.
(b) Set up a SCO network install server, and proceed.
(c) Try the install on legacy physical hardware instead.
Of course, your experience may differ.
2. There's actually an installation guide available for this OS here:
ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd211/eng211.txt
As well as a lot of driver updates and other good stuff:
ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/
3. Anyone who wants to try SCO for the first time may find 5.0.7 a much
easier go. It will install directly from CD in VMWare, and there is more
driver support for it. To me, it has a very "pure" UNIX feel to it,
other than the gratuitous and absurd use of symbolic links all over the
file system. If you're interested in trying-out that version, let me
know
and I'll put up those images for download too.
Regards,
--corey
8:08 p.m.
Cory Smelosky wrote:
Arthur Krewat wrote:
I believe VirtualBox crashed at about the same point as qemu.
I've been trying this myself today, both on
ESXi 6.0U2, and I went and
installed ESXi 5.0 as a guest under 6.0U2 :)
I notice that when I put the CD as IDE 1:0 (bus 1, master) it doesn't
find it. When I put it as 0:0 (bus 0, master), it hangs loading the IDE
driver.
I suspect it doesn't know about bus 1, so it doesn't hang but also
doesn't find it, and there's something wrong with either VMware's
implementation of IDE, or SCO's handling of it - or both. I've read
where lots of devices in VMware are just to "perfect" for some device
drivers to deal with. One glaring example was you couldn't use the LSI
SAS driver with Solaris 11. It would either hang or panic, I forget
which. Switch to LSI Parallel SCSI, and it was fine.
Anyway, I suspect that there's something in the IDE driver that's
ignoring bus1, and hanging with VMware's implementation of it.
I'm going to try installing ESXi 4.0 and see what happens.
On another note, it's possible I just need to install the hard drive as
IDE from the get-go, have the CDROM as slave on bus 0 and see what
happens.
Any pointers?
thanks!
art k.
bochs' IDE implementation results in it crashing and in qemu it panic()s
before loading the installer.
8:18 p.m.
Same result with IDE hard drive on bus 0 master, and CD on bus 0 slave.
Hang loading ide driver.
On 2/27/2017 3:08 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Cory Smelosky wrote:
bochs' IDE implementation results in it
crashing and in qemu it panic()s
before loading the installer.
I believe VirtualBox crashed at about the same point as qemu.
28 Feb
28 Feb
12:19 a.m.
Same result with ESXi 4.0, and CDROM on bus 0 slave or master.
Hung on ide driver load.
On 2/27/2017 3:18 PM, Arthur Krewat wrote:
Same result with IDE hard drive on bus 0 master, and
CD on bus 0 slave.
Hang loading ide driver.
On 2/27/2017 3:08 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Cory Smelosky wrote:
bochs' IDE implementation results in it
crashing and in qemu it
panic()s
before loading the installer.
I believe VirtualBox crashed at about the same point as qemu.
1:15 a.m.
Has anyone tried this on Virtualbox? If not, I'll try it out tomorrow
morning.
On Feb 27, 2017 7:20 PM, "Arthur Krewat" <krewat(a)kilonet.net> wrote:
Same result with ESXi 4.0, and CDROM on bus 0 slave or
master.
Hung on ide driver load.
On 2/27/2017 3:18 PM, Arthur Krewat wrote:
Same result with IDE hard drive on bus 0 master,
and CD on bus 0 slave.
Hang loading ide driver.
On 2/27/2017 3:08 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Cory Smelosky wrote:
bochs' IDE implementation results in it
crashing and in qemu it panic()s
before loading the installer.
I believe VirtualBox crashed at about the same point as qemu.
1:31 a.m.
I did. Didn't even get to the installer.
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 27, 2017, at 17:15, Michael Kerpan
<madcrow.maxwell(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Has anyone tried this on Virtualbox? If not, I'll try it out tomorrow morning.
> On Feb 27, 2017 7:20 PM, "Arthur Krewat" <krewat(a)kilonet.net> wrote:
> Same result with ESXi 4.0, and CDROM on bus 0 slave or master.
>
> Hung on ide driver load.
>
>
>
>> On 2/27/2017 3:18 PM, Arthur Krewat wrote:
>> Same result with IDE hard drive on bus 0 master, and CD on bus 0 slave.
>>
>> Hang loading ide driver.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 2/27/2017 3:08 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
>>> Cory Smelosky wrote:
>>>> bochs' IDE implementation results in it crashing and in qemu it
panic()s
>>>> before loading the installer.
>>>
>>> I believe VirtualBox crashed at about the same point as qemu.
>>>
>>
>
2:52 a.m.
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017, at 08:49, Corey Lindsly wrote:
(a) Track down the driver and/or VMWare settings to
fix the CD-ROM
visibility, and proceed with the install.
(b) Set up a SCO network install server, and proceed.
(c) Try the install on legacy physical hardware instead.
Of course, your experience may differ.
2. There's actually an installation guide available for this OS here:
ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd211/eng211.txt
As well as a lot of driver updates and other good stuff:
ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/
3. Anyone who wants to try SCO for the first time may find 5.0.7 a much
easier go. It will install directly from CD in VMWare, and there is more
driver support for it. To me, it has a very "pure" UNIX feel to it,
other than the gratuitous and absurd use of symbolic links all over the
file system. If you're interested in trying-out that version, let me know
and I'll put up those images for download too.
I would grab it from Xinuous' website but I seem to have forgotten what
the hell I provided for "first phone number"....so can't log in.
Regards,
--corey
--
Cory Smelosky
b4(a)gewt.net
2:55 a.m.
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017, at 18:52, Cory Smelosky wrote:
--
Cory Smelosky
b4(a)gewt.net
I would grab it from Xinuous' website but I seem to have forgotten what
the hell I provided for "first phone number"....so can't log in.
I found the password, at least...phone number on file is still a mystery
however.
Seems you just need an account to grab 5...I have no support contract.
Regards,
--corey
--
Cory Smelosky
b4(a)gewt.net
3:54 a.m.
I have had great success with PCem (http://pcem-emulator.co.uk/)
Config:
gameblaster = 0
gus = 0
ssi2001 = 0
voodoo = 0
model = 39
cpu_manufacturer = 0
cpu = 27
cpu_use_dynarec = 1
cpu_waitstates = 0
gfxcard = 15
video_speed = 5
sndcard = 0
cpu_speed = 21
has_fpu = 1
disc_a = Z:\Users\<redacted>\id.ima
disc_b =
mem_size = 262144
cdrom_drive = 200
cdrom_enabled = 1
cdrom_channel = 1
cdrom_path = Z:\Users\<redacted>\SCO-2.1-CD.iso
vid_resize = 0
vid_api = 1
video_fullscreen_scale = 0
video_fullscreen_first = 1
hdc_sectors = 63
hdc_heads = 16
hdc_cylinders = 511
hdc_fn = sco-testing.img
hdd_sectors = 0
hdd_heads = 0
hdd_cylinders = 0
hdd_fn =
hde_sectors = 0
hde_heads = 0
hde_cylinders = 0
hde_fn =
hdf_sectors = 0
hdf_heads = 0
hdf_cylinders = 0
hdf_fn =
drive_a_type = 5
drive_b_type = 7
window_w = 0
window_h = 0
window_x = 0
window_y = 0
window_remember = 0
joystick_type = 0
mouse_type = 0
enable_sync = 1
[Joysticks]
joystick_0_nr = 0
joystick_1_nr = 0
cdrom_channel MUST be 1, and the floppy MUST end with an
extension of .ima
It runs on windows and linux, and happily in wine in macos. Once the
install completes I am confident it will work on bochs et al:
file sco-testing.img
sco-testing.img: DOS/MBR boot sector; partition 4 : ID=0x63, active, start-
CHS (0x0,1,1), end-CHS (0xfe,31,63), startsector 63, 514017 sectors
It's not a special image format, but a raw image.
--
Cory Smelosky
b4(a)gewt.net
6:50 a.m.
After a ridiculous method of copying the update 1440k at a time, I upgraded to 2.1.3 and
now it boots in qemu.
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 27, 2017, at 19:54, Cory Smelosky
<b4(a)gewt.net> wrote:
I have had great success with PCem (http://pcem-emulator.co.uk/)
Config:
gameblaster = 0
gus = 0
ssi2001 = 0
voodoo = 0
model = 39
cpu_manufacturer = 0
cpu = 27
cpu_use_dynarec = 1
cpu_waitstates = 0
gfxcard = 15
video_speed = 5
sndcard = 0
cpu_speed = 21
has_fpu = 1
disc_a = Z:\Users\<redacted>\id.ima
disc_b =
mem_size = 262144
cdrom_drive = 200
cdrom_enabled = 1
cdrom_channel = 1
cdrom_path = Z:\Users\<redacted>\SCO-2.1-CD.iso
vid_resize = 0
vid_api = 1
video_fullscreen_scale = 0
video_fullscreen_first = 1
hdc_sectors = 63
hdc_heads = 16
hdc_cylinders = 511
hdc_fn = sco-testing.img
hdd_sectors = 0
hdd_heads = 0
hdd_cylinders = 0
hdd_fn =
hde_sectors = 0
hde_heads = 0
hde_cylinders = 0
hde_fn =
hdf_sectors = 0
hdf_heads = 0
hdf_cylinders = 0
hdf_fn =
drive_a_type = 5
drive_b_type = 7
window_w = 0
window_h = 0
window_x = 0
window_y = 0
window_remember = 0
joystick_type = 0
mouse_type = 0
enable_sync = 1
[Joysticks]
joystick_0_nr = 0
joystick_1_nr = 0
cdrom_channel MUST be 1, and the floppy MUST end with an extension of .ima
It runs on windows and linux, and happily in wine in macos. Once the install completes I
am confident it will work on bochs et al:
file sco-testing.img
sco-testing.img: DOS/MBR boot sector; partition 4 : ID=0x63, active, start-CHS (0x0,1,1),
end-CHS (0xfe,31,63), startsector 63, 514017 sectors
It's not a special image format, but a raw image.
--
Cory Smelosky
b4(a)gewt.net
9 p.m.
On 2017 Feb 27, 08:49, Corey Lindsly wrote:
Well, the subject says "SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0", but what you call
"SCO 2.1" and for which you link updates at ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/
is UnixWare, which is a very different beast.
SCO OpenDesktop (and SCO OpenServer 5.0.7 that you mention) are SysVR3
based (they are, in fact, the evolution of Microsoft Xenix). Those don't
support at-runtime loadable kernel modules (only at-bootime loadable
kernel modules are supported).
UnixWare, on the other hand, is SysVR4 based, and comes directly from
Novell, who bought it from USL, who bought it from AT&T.
UnixWare 2.1 is the last version of UnixWare before SCO bundled their
"scoadmin" tool with it. UnixWare 2.1.1 also is officially "Unix-95"
certified. UnixWare 2.1 is probably the purest UNIX SysVR4 to be run
on a PC/386, and has very little in common with the archaic SysVR3-based
OpenDesktop/OpenServer releases from SCO.
Regards,
--
Josh Good
Count me in. I put my hand up for a copy of SCO when they were offering free
samplers in the early 2000s, but never heard back from them.
I wanted to compare it with Linux ...
Thanks
Wesley Parish
For anyone interested, the SCO 2.1 images are available for download here:
http://lod.com/sco
A few things:
1. I am having some difficulty getting it to install in VMWare ESXi 5. The
floppy image boots, and I get some way into the install process, but SCO
install does not see the virtual CD-ROM drive. Thus, I'm presented with
network install options only. At this point, there are a few options:
(a) Track down the driver and/or VMWare settings to fix the CD-ROM
visibility, and proceed with the install.
(b) Set up a SCO network install server, and proceed.
(c) Try the install on legacy physical hardware instead.
Of course, your experience may differ.
2. There's actually an installation guide available for this OS here:
ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd211/eng211.txt
As well as a lot of driver updates and other good stuff:
ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/
3. Anyone who wants to try SCO for the first time may find 5.0.7 a much
easier go. It will install directly from CD in VMWare, and there is more
driver support for it. To me, it has a very "pure" UNIX feel to it,
other than the gratuitous and absurd use of symbolic links all over the
file system. If you're interested in trying-out that version, let me know
and I'll put up those images for download too.
1 Mar
1 Mar
10:45 p.m.
On 2017 Feb 27, 14:59, Arthur Krewat wrote:
I've been trying this myself today, both on ESXi
6.0U2, and I went and
installed ESXi 5.0 as a guest under 6.0U2 :)
I notice that when I put the CD as IDE 1:0 (bus 1, master) it doesn't
find it. When I put it as 0:0 (bus 0, master), it hangs loading the IDE
driver.
I suspect it doesn't know about bus 1, so it doesn't hang but also
doesn't find it, and there's something wrong with either VMware's
implementation of IDE, or SCO's handling of it - or both. I've read
where lots of devices in VMware are just to "perfect" for some device
drivers to deal with. One glaring example was you couldn't use the LSI
SAS driver with Solaris 11. It would either hang or panic, I forget
which. Switch to LSI Parallel SCSI, and it was fine.
Anyway, I suspect that there's something in the IDE driver that's
ignoring bus1, and hanging with VMware's implementation of it.
I'm going to try installing ESXi 4.0 and see what happens.
On another note, it's possible I just need to install the hard drive as
IDE from the get-go, have the CDROM as slave on bus 0 and see what happens.
Any pointers?
thanks!
art k.
On 2/27/2017 12:12 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
>Corey Lindsly wrote:
>>>Count me in. I put my hand up for a copy of SCO when they were
>>>offering free
>>>samplers in the early 2000s, but never heard back from them.
>>>
>>>I wanted to compare it with Linux ...
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>Wesley Parish
>>
>>For anyone interested, the SCO 2.1 images are available for download
>>here:
>>
>>http://lod.com/sco
>>
>>A few things:
>>
>>1. I am having some difficulty getting it to install in VMWare ESXi
>>5. The
>>floppy image boots, and I get some way into the install process, but SCO
>>install does not see the virtual CD-ROM drive. Thus, I'm presented with
>>network install options only. At this point, there are a few options:
>>
>>(a) Track down the driver and/or VMWare settings to fix the CD-ROM
>>visibility, and proceed with the install.
>>
>>(b) Set up a SCO network install server, and proceed.
>>
>>(c) Try the install on legacy physical hardware instead.
I got it to install successfully, in VMware Server 1.0.2.
The solution is to boot normally with the "id.dd" floppy image provided
by Corey Lindsly, with the ISO image also provided by Corey configured
as IDE 0:1 (first channel, slave), and with a virtual IDE disk (I'm
using 8 GB of size) as 0:0 (first channel, master).
This setup leads to the already known IDE driver hanging. It's a
problem with the IDE driver provided by SCO with UnixWare 2.1. So,
when the install process asks whether you want to use a "HBA diskette",
load into your PC emulator's virtual floppy drive the updated "HBA
diskette" image provided by SCO for UnixWare 2.1.3, which is here:
ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd213/hba213.img
This will stop the UnixWare 2.1 IDE driver from hanging, and the
install process will proceed successfully to completion.
It should work equally well in VirtualBox.
Regards,
--
Josh Good
10:52 p.m.
That's easier than the way I did it ;)
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 1, 2017, at 14:45, Josh Good
<pepe(a)naleco.com> wrote:
On 2017 Feb 27, 14:59, Arthur Krewat wrote:
I've been trying this myself today, both on ESXi 6.0U2, and I went and
installed ESXi 5.0 as a guest under 6.0U2 :)
I notice that when I put the CD as IDE 1:0 (bus 1, master) it doesn't
find it. When I put it as 0:0 (bus 0, master), it hangs loading the IDE
driver.
I suspect it doesn't know about bus 1, so it doesn't hang but also
doesn't find it, and there's something wrong with either VMware's
implementation of IDE, or SCO's handling of it - or both. I've read
where lots of devices in VMware are just to "perfect" for some device
drivers to deal with. One glaring example was you couldn't use the LSI
SAS driver with Solaris 11. It would either hang or panic, I forget
which. Switch to LSI Parallel SCSI, and it was fine.
Anyway, I suspect that there's something in the IDE driver that's
ignoring bus1, and hanging with VMware's implementation of it.
I'm going to try installing ESXi 4.0 and see what happens.
On another note, it's possible I just need to install the hard drive as
IDE from the get-go, have the CDROM as slave on bus 0 and see what happens.
Any pointers?
thanks!
art k.
> On 2/27/2017 12:12 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
> Corey Lindsly wrote:
>>> Count me in. I put my hand up for a copy of SCO when they were
>>> offering free
>>> samplers in the early 2000s, but never heard back from them.
>>>
>>> I wanted to compare it with Linux ...
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Wesley Parish
>>
>> For anyone interested, the SCO 2.1 images are available for download
>> here:
>>
>> http://lod.com/sco
>>
>> A few things:
>>
>> 1. I am having some difficulty getting it to install in VMWare ESXi
>> 5. The
>> floppy image boots, and I get some way into the install process, but SCO
>> install does not see the virtual CD-ROM drive. Thus, I'm presented with
>> network install options only. At this point, there are a few options:
>>
>> (a) Track down the driver and/or VMWare settings to fix the CD-ROM
>> visibility, and proceed with the install.
>>
>> (b) Set up a SCO network install server, and proceed.
>>
>> (c) Try the install on legacy physical hardware instead.
I got it to install successfully, in VMware Server 1.0.2.
The solution is to boot normally with the "id.dd" floppy image provided
by Corey Lindsly, with the ISO image also provided by Corey configured
as IDE 0:1 (first channel, slave), and with a virtual IDE disk (I'm
using 8 GB of size) as 0:0 (first channel, master).
This setup leads to the already known IDE driver hanging. It's a
problem with the IDE driver provided by SCO with UnixWare 2.1. So,
when the install process asks whether you want to use a "HBA diskette",
load into your PC emulator's virtual floppy drive the updated "HBA
diskette" image provided by SCO for UnixWare 2.1.3, which is here:
ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd213/hba213.img
This will stop the UnixWare 2.1 IDE driver from hanging, and the
install process will proceed successfully to completion.
It should work equally well in VirtualBox.
Regards,
--
Josh Good
11:06 p.m.
In ESXi 5.0, using the updated HBA driver diskette, I got to this point
and it locked up apparently (see below). Gotta love Y2K
On 3/1/2017 5:45 PM, Josh Good wrote:
I got it to install successfully, in VMware Server
1.0.2.
The solution is to boot normally with the "id.dd" floppy image provided
by Corey Lindsly, with the ISO image also provided by Corey configured
as IDE 0:1 (first channel, slave), and with a virtual IDE disk (I'm
using 8 GB of size) as 0:0 (first channel, master).
This setup leads to the already known IDE driver hanging. It's a
problem with the IDE driver provided by SCO with UnixWare 2.1. So,
when the install process asks whether you want to use a "HBA diskette",
load into your PC emulator's virtual floppy drive the updated "HBA
diskette" image provided by SCO for UnixWare 2.1.3, which is here:
ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd213/hba213.img
This will stop the UnixWare 2.1 IDE driver from hanging, and the
install process will proceed successfully to completion.
It should work equally well in VirtualBox.
Regards,
11:07 p.m.
Erase the year and replace it with 99 and you can proceed. Or at least I could...
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 1, 2017, at 15:06, Arthur Krewat
<krewat(a)kilonet.net> wrote:
In ESXi 5.0, using the updated HBA driver diskette, I got to this point and it locked up
apparently (see below). Gotta love Y2K
<nhcellemnelfkmhb.png>
On 3/1/2017 5:45 PM, Josh Good wrote:
I got it to install successfully, in VMware Server 1.0.2.
The solution is to boot normally with the "id.dd" floppy image provided
by Corey Lindsly, with the ISO image also provided by Corey configured
as IDE 0:1 (first channel, slave), and with a virtual IDE disk (I'm
using 8 GB of size) as 0:0 (first channel, master).
This setup leads to the already known IDE driver hanging. It's a
problem with the IDE driver provided by SCO with UnixWare 2.1. So,
when the install process asks whether you want to use a "HBA diskette",
load into your PC emulator's virtual floppy drive the updated "HBA
diskette" image provided by SCO for UnixWare 2.1.3, which is here:
ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd213/hba213.img
This will stop the UnixWare 2.1 IDE driver from hanging, and the
install process will proceed successfully to completion.
It should work equally well in VirtualBox.
Regards,
11:13 p.m.
LOL - I beat you to it :) Just did that, and it's going now.
On 3/1/2017 6:07 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Erase the year and replace it with 99 and you can
proceed. Or at least
I could...
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 1, 2017, at 15:06, Arthur Krewat <krewat(a)kilonet.net
<mailto:krewat@kilonet.net>> wrote:
> In ESXi 5.0, using the updated HBA driver diskette, I got to this
> point and it locked up apparently (see below). Gotta love Y2K
>
> <nhcellemnelfkmhb.png>
>
> On 3/1/2017 5:45 PM, Josh Good wrote:
>> I got it to install successfully, in VMware Server 1.0.2.
>> The solution is to boot normally with the "id.dd" floppy image
provided
>> by Corey Lindsly, with the ISO image also provided by Corey configured
>> as IDE 0:1 (first channel, slave), and with a virtual IDE disk (I'm
>> using 8 GB of size) as 0:0 (first channel, master).
>>
>> This setup leads to the already known IDE driver hanging. It's a
>> problem with the IDE driver provided by SCO with UnixWare 2.1. So,
>> when the install process asks whether you want to use a "HBA
diskette",
>> load into your PC emulator's virtual floppy drive the updated "HBA
>> diskette" image provided by SCO for UnixWare 2.1.3, which is here:
>> ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd213/hba213.img
>>
>> This will stop the UnixWare 2.1 IDE driver from hanging, and the
>> install process will proceed successfully to completion.
>>
>> It should work equally well in VirtualBox.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>
11:24 p.m.
And now, get a kernel build error.
Looking at it a bit further in a second.
On 3/1/2017 6:13 PM, Arthur Krewat wrote:
LOL - I beat you to it :) Just did that, and it's
going now.
On 3/1/2017 6:07 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Erase the year and replace it with 99 and you can
proceed. Or at
least I could...
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 1, 2017, at 15:06, Arthur Krewat <krewat(a)kilonet.net
<mailto:krewat@kilonet.net>> wrote:
> In ESXi 5.0, using the updated HBA driver diskette, I got to this
> point and it locked up apparently (see below). Gotta love Y2K
>
> <nhcellemnelfkmhb.png>
>
> On 3/1/2017 5:45 PM, Josh Good wrote:
>> I got it to install successfully, in VMware Server 1.0.2.
>> The solution is to boot normally with the "id.dd" floppy image
provided
>> by Corey Lindsly, with the ISO image also provided by Corey configured
>> as IDE 0:1 (first channel, slave), and with a virtual IDE disk (I'm
>> using 8 GB of size) as 0:0 (first channel, master).
>>
>> This setup leads to the already known IDE driver hanging. It's a
>> problem with the IDE driver provided by SCO with UnixWare 2.1. So,
>> when the install process asks whether you want to use a "HBA
diskette",
>> load into your PC emulator's virtual floppy drive the updated "HBA
>> diskette" image provided by SCO for UnixWare 2.1.3, which is here:
>> ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd213/hba213.img
>>
>> This will stop the UnixWare 2.1 IDE driver from hanging, and the
>> install process will proceed successfully to completion.
>>
>> It should work equally well in VirtualBox.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>
2 Mar
2 Mar
7:56 p.m.
I got it to install successfully, in VMware Server
1.0.2.
The solution is to boot normally with the "id.dd" floppy image provided
by Corey Lindsly, with the ISO image also provided by Corey configured
as IDE 0:1 (first channel, slave), and with a virtual IDE disk (I'm
using 8 GB of size) as 0:0 (first channel, master).
This setup leads to the already known IDE driver hanging. It's a
problem with the IDE driver provided by SCO with UnixWare 2.1. So,
when the install process asks whether you want to use a "HBA diskette",
load into your PC emulator's virtual floppy drive the updated "HBA
diskette" image provided by SCO for UnixWare 2.1.3, which is here:
ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd213/hba213.img
This will stop the UnixWare 2.1 IDE driver from hanging, and the
install process will proceed successfully to completion.
It should work equally well in VirtualBox.
Regards,
--
Josh Good
Good stuff. Thanks. I was able to do the install in ESXi 5 with no
problems using this information. Has anyone gotten the networking setup?
There is an Intel PRO/1000 NIC driver package on the SCO site (ptf4016c)
but it is for UW2.1.3 only and I was not able to get it to go. Sadly, the
original 2.1 package ptf4016a appears to be gone. I suppose the next step
would be to run through the updates from 2.1 to 2.1.3 unless someone else
can share a simpler way to bring up a NIC.
--corey
11:24 p.m.
On 2017 Mar 2, 11:56, Corey Lindsly wrote:
I have networking up and running in UnixWare 2.1, on VMware Server 1.0.
VMware Server 1.0 virtualizes the "AMD PCNet" PCI ethernet card, and
UnixWare 2.1 has built-in drivers for it.
Can the virtualization software you are using offer an emulated "AMD
PCNet" PCI ethernet card to the virtual machine where you are running
UnixWare 2.1?
I attach these screenshots for your reference:
https://s29.postimg.org/rlnbqb687/screenshot_01_network_driver.png
https://s29.postimg.org/cw2hlt3yf/screenshot_02_network_driver.png
https://s29.postimg.org/3pk6yiypz/screenshot_03_network_driver.png
https://s29.postimg.org/qfjbrihxj/screenshot_04_booting.png
https://s29.postimg.org/li5r6efyf/screenshot_05_booting.png
https://s29.postimg.org/z0cnios3r/screenshot_06_X11.png
https://s29.postimg.org/g1n3c0mkn/screenshot_07_login.png
And now, it would be nice to have SSHd running. According to this post,
it's doable:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.security.ssh/da7A-ma74zs
Does anyone volunteer to compile a package for SSHd in UnixWare 2.1,
and share it?
Regards,
--
Josh Good
I got it to install successfully, in VMware
Server 1.0.2.
The solution is to boot normally with the "id.dd" floppy image provided
by Corey Lindsly, with the ISO image also provided by Corey configured
as IDE 0:1 (first channel, slave), and with a virtual IDE disk (I'm
using 8 GB of size) as 0:0 (first channel, master).
This setup leads to the already known IDE driver hanging. It's a
problem with the IDE driver provided by SCO with UnixWare 2.1. So,
when the install process asks whether you want to use a "HBA diskette",
load into your PC emulator's virtual floppy drive the updated "HBA
diskette" image provided by SCO for UnixWare 2.1.3, which is here:
ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd213/hba213.img
This will stop the UnixWare 2.1 IDE driver from hanging, and the
install process will proceed successfully to completion.
It should work equally well in VirtualBox.
Regards,
--
Josh Good
Good stuff. Thanks. I was able to do the install in ESXi 5 with no
problems using this information. Has anyone gotten the networking setup?
There is an Intel PRO/1000 NIC driver package on the SCO site (ptf4016c)
but it is for UW2.1.3 only and I was not able to get it to go. Sadly, the
original 2.1 package ptf4016a appears to be gone. I suppose the next step
would be to run through the updates from 2.1 to 2.1.3 unless someone else
can share a simpler way to bring up a NIC. 
3 Mar
3 Mar
4:22 p.m.
Install successful on VMware ESXi 6.0u2
IDE hard drive, 2GB, on IDE bus 0, master (0:1)
CD drive on IDE bus 0, slave (0:1)
Network working using AMD-PCNET (VMware flexible adapter)
Same procedure as already posted, using HBA213 floppy image.
Cool stuff.
Side note: I tried a Buslogic SCSI adapter and 2GB hard drive, but after
the install was complete, it hung after reboot, maybe it didn't like the
IRQ the card was assigned to:
4:54 p.m.
I almost hate to bring this up at this point, but it seems worthwhile - are
SCO products now considered legal to distribute? Or just Novell? I had
thought not, but that may well be an outdated understanding of the
situation.
-Henry
On 3 March 2017 at 11:22, Arthur Krewat <krewat(a)kilonet.net> wrote:
Install successful on VMware ESXi 6.0u2
IDE hard drive, 2GB, on IDE bus 0, master (0:1)
CD drive on IDE bus 0, slave (0:1)
Network working using AMD-PCNET (VMware flexible adapter)
Same procedure as already posted, using HBA213 floppy image.
Cool stuff.
Side note: I tried a Buslogic SCSI adapter and 2GB hard drive, but after
the install was complete, it hung after reboot, maybe it didn't like the
IRQ the card was assigned to:
4 Mar
4 Mar
4:18 a.m.
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017, at 08:22, Arthur Krewat wrote:
> Side note: I tried a Buslogic SCSI adapter and 2GB hard drive, but
> after the install was complete, it hung after reboot, maybe it didn't
> like the IRQ the card was assigned to:
Time to attempt to migrate the qemu VM to vmware! ;)
--
Cory Smelosky
b4(a)gewt.net
Install successful on VMware ESXi 6.0u2
IDE hard drive, 2GB, on IDE bus 0, master (0:1)
CD drive on IDE bus 0, slave (0:1)
Network working using AMD-PCNET (VMware flexible
adapter)
Same procedure as already posted, using HBA213 floppy
image.
Cool stuff.
4:56 a.m.
What VM hardware version? It's not working for me w/ flexible or e1000.
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017, at 08:22, Arthur Krewat wrote:
> Side note: I tried a Buslogic SCSI adapter and 2GB hard drive, but
> after the install was complete, it hung after reboot, maybe it didn't
> like the IRQ the card was assigned to:
--
Cory Smelosky
b4(a)gewt.net
Install successful on VMware ESXi 6.0u2
IDE hard drive, 2GB, on IDE bus 0, master (0:1)
CD drive on IDE bus 0, slave (0:1)
Network working using AMD-PCNET (VMware flexible
adapter)
Same procedure as already posted, using HBA213 floppy
image.
Cool stuff.
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