13 Jun
2022
13 Jun
'22
3:49 p.m.
Maybe make www.tuhs.org a CNAME for tuhs.org?
Surely a site devoted to the history of UNIX should use a
real link, not a symbolic one.
Norman `Old Fart' Wilson
Toronto ON
13 Jun
13 Jun
4:39 p.m.
New subject: Documentation for Unix 4.0
On 13 Jun 2022 11:49 -0400, from norman(a)oclsc.org (Norman Wilson):
Surely a site that aims to collect information should have a single
canonical name, not multiple ones that lead to the same content on the
same host.
I would suggest to pick either www.tuhs.org or tuhs.org as the HTTP
hostname, and make the other redirect to the first (or remove HTTP
service from the not-chosen one entirely) only so as to not break
existing links from elsewhere.
--
Michael Kjörling • https://michael.kjorling.se • michael(a)kjorling.se
“Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?”
Maybe make
www.tuhs.org a CNAME for tuhs.org?
Surely a site devoted to the history of UNIX should use a
real link, not a symbolic one.
15 Jun
15 Jun
1:53 a.m.
New subject: Documentation for Unix 4.0
Yes, tuhs.org:80 &443 could permanently redirect to www.tuhs.org so
browsers update to the full canonical name (assuming that's the desired
name).
Though I think Norman was drawing an analogy between A-records/hard links
and CNAME/symlinks, then observing that prior to 4.2BSD in 1983 there were
no symlinks only hard links, ditto CNAMEs in RFC-882, also 1983.
So if we're going back further, we shouldn't use them (it breaks down a
little when considering A-records though, since we can't easily not use
those!)
On Tue, 14 Jun 2022, 00:44 Michael Kjörling, <michael(a)kjorling.se> wrote:
On 13 Jun 2022 11:49 -0400, from norman(a)oclsc.org
(Norman Wilson):
Surely a site that aims to collect information should have a single
canonical name, not multiple ones that lead to the same content on the
same host.
I would suggest to pick either www.tuhs.org or tuhs.org as the HTTP
hostname, and make the other redirect to the first (or remove HTTP
service from the not-chosen one entirely) only so as to not break
existing links from elsewhere.
--
Michael Kjörling • https://michael.kjorling.se • michael(a)kjorling.se
“Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?”
Maybe
make www.tuhs.org a CNAME for tuhs.org?
Surely a site devoted to the history of UNIX should use a
real link, not a symbolic one.
5:57 a.m.
New subject: Documentation for Unix 4.0
On 15 Jun 2022 09:53 +0800, from stu(a)remphrey.net (Stuart Remphrey):
Though I think Norman was drawing an analogy between
A-records/hard links
and CNAME/symlinks, then observing that prior to 4.2BSD in 1983 there were
no symlinks only hard links, ditto CNAMEs in RFC-882, also 1983.
So if we're going back further, we shouldn't use them (it breaks down a
little when considering A-records though, since we can't easily not use
those!)
By much that same line of reasoning, tuhs.org shouldn't have any MX
records either because the MX RRtype was introduced as recently as in
1986 (Wikipedia puts it at RFCs 973 and 974 [1] but without wide use
until "in the early 1990s"). Let alone a web presence because HTTP and
HTML came along even later. :-)
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MX_record#Historical_background
--
Michael Kjörling • https://michael.kjorling.se • michael(a)kjorling.se
“Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?”
12:04 p.m.
New subject: Documentation for Unix 4.0
On Wed, Jun 15, 2022, 1:57 AM Michael Kjörling <michael(a)kjorling.se> wrote:
On 15 Jun 2022 09:53 +0800, from stu(a)remphrey.net
(Stuart Remphrey):
This definitely feels like it extends the joke a tad too far. :-)
- Dan C.
Though I think Norman was drawing an analogy
between A-records/hard links
and CNAME/symlinks, then observing that prior to 4.2BSD in 1983 there
were
no symlinks only hard links, ditto CNAMEs in
RFC-882, also 1983.
So if we're going back further, we shouldn't use them (it breaks down a
little when considering A-records though, since we can't easily not use
those!)
By much that same line of reasoning, tuhs.org shouldn't have any MX
records either because the MX RRtype was introduced as recently as in
1986 (Wikipedia puts it at RFCs 973 and 974 [1] but without wide use
until "in the early 1990s"). Let alone a web presence because HTTP and
HTML came along even later. :-)
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MX_record#Historical_background 
16 Jun
16 Jun
7:45 a.m.
New subject: Documentation for Unix 4.0
Dan Cross <crossd(a)gmail.com> writes:
This definitely feels like it extends the joke a tad
too far. :-)
Nah, not until we start demanding ..!minnie!tuhs as the list address.
-tih (who has two 11/23 systems with PWB 1.0 connected via UUCP)
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