1 Feb
2017
1 Feb
'17
9:20 p.m.
From: Clem Cole
don't expect a lot of wild and crazy names
Yeah, those arrived when places started to get lots of identical machines,
and needed a theme to name them. So I remember MIT-LCS had VAX 750's called
Tide, Borax, etc (cleaners); MIT-AI had Suns called Grape-Nuts, Wheaties, etc
(cereals).
I know other places had similar name sets, but I can't recall the themes of
any of them - although looking at an old HOSTS.TXT, I see CMU had systems
called Faraday, Gauss, etc, while Purdue had Fermat, Newton, etc; U-Texas had
Disney characters, BBN had fish, U-Washington had South Pacific islands - the
list just goes on and on.
Google for a old Host file, that's a good source if you want to know more.
Noel
1 Feb
1 Feb
9:42 p.m.
New subject: Names of famous, historical UNIX machines?
On 1 Feb 2017 16:20 -0500, from jnc(a)mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa):
Google for a old Host file, that's a good source
if you want to know more.
That's a good idea, I'll definitely give that a try later. Thanks for
the tip!
(Oh, and I didn't mean to imply a restriction to the 1970s; that was
only to indicate what little I'd been able to find.)
--
Michael Kjörling • https://michael.kjorling.se • michael(a)kjorling.se
“People who think they know everything really annoy
those of us who know we don’t.” (Bjarne Stroustrup)
9:43 p.m.
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90s too late? Everyone needs sun-lamp and some of DEC's ULTRIX boxes. ;)
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 1, 2017, at 13:42, Michael Kjörling
<michael(a)kjorling.se> wrote:
On 1 Feb 2017 16:20 -0500, from jnc(a)mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa):
Google for a old Host file, that's a good
source if you want to know more.
That's a good idea, I'll definitely give that a try later. Thanks for
the tip!
(Oh, and I didn't mean to imply a restriction to the 1970s; that was
only to indicate what little I'd been able to find.)
--
Michael Kjörling • https://michael.kjorling.se • michael(a)kjorling.se
“People who think they know everything really annoy
those of us who know we don’t.” (Bjarne Stroustrup)
10:16 p.m.
New subject: Names of famous, historical UNIX machines?
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017, at 13:43, Cory Smelosky wrote:
90s too late? Everyone needs sun-lamp and some of
DEC's ULTRIX boxes. ;)
Sent from my iPhone
sys/conf for Ultrix 4.3 I believe
./ CHASM EVERYTHING LIMBO MY730
NOWISE SAS.gen TRIBBLE WISPER files
param.c
../ DECVAX GENERIC LINT MY750
RAGTIME SAS.net UTMOST YAWN files.vax
touch.c
ABYSS EREHWON HOLLOW MONET MY780
RAVINE SAS.rx01 VACUUM defines makefile.vax
BINARY.vax ERNIE KIM MVAX NFS
SALT SAS.tu58 VAPOR devices.vax newvers.sh
--
Cory Smelosky
b4(a)gewt.net
On Feb 1, 2017, at 13:42, Michael Kjörling
<michael(a)kjorling.se> wrote:
On 1 Feb 2017 16:20 -0500, from jnc(a)mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa):
Google for a old Host file, that's a good
source if you want to know more.
That's a good idea, I'll definitely give that a try later. Thanks for
the tip!
(Oh, and I didn't mean to imply a restriction to the 1970s; that was
only to indicate what little I'd been able to find.)
--
Michael Kjörling • https://michael.kjorling.se • michael(a)kjorling.se
“People who think they know everything really annoy
those of us who know we don’t.” (Bjarne Stroustrup) 
9:50 p.m.
New subject: Names of famous, historical UNIX machines?
Another source was the comp.mail.maps newsgroup for UUCP maps.
I loved the Pyramid Technologies names pace - - all host names started with pyr.
Pyramid->pyrnj->pyrite to my home in get.
The one that killed me was pyrgynt.
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: "Michael Kjörling" <michael(a)kjorling.se>
To: tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org
Sent: Wed, 01 Feb 2017 16:42
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Names of famous, historical UNIX machines?
On 1 Feb 2017 16:20 -0500, from jnc(a)mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa):
Google for a old Host file, that's a good source
if you want to know more.
That's a good idea, I'll definitely give that a try later. Thanks for
the tip!
(Oh, and I didn't mean to imply a restriction to the 1970s; that was
only to indicate what little I'd been able to find.)
--
Michael Kjörling • https://michael.kjorling.se • michael(a)kjorling.se
“People who think they know everything really annoy
those of us who know we don’t.” (Bjarne Stroustrup)
10:06 p.m.
New subject: Names of famous, historical UNIX machines?
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 4:20 PM, Noel Chiappa <jnc(a)mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
wrote:
I know other places had similar name sets, but I
can't recall the themes of
any of them - although looking at an old HOSTS.TXT, I see CMU had systems
called Faraday, Gauss, etc, while Purdue had Fermat, Newton, etc; U-Texas
had
Disney characters, BBN had fish, U-Washington had South Pacific islands -
the
list just goes on and on.
Indeed....
UCB's CSRG was naming after dead artists .. Monet, Degauss, *etc*..
The CAD group was a beverages theme: Cone, Sprite and Pepsi for the 3 780's
- then the workstation were named after beer we drank.
Masscomp used the Rogue monsters to start (until we ran out of the original
26 - then it was sort was all over the place). Yeti was the build server,
Eye was the system we did the original MP UNIX work on, and Xorn was mine
own [I've forgotten the names of the others]. In fact, when I got married
by English-Lit major brother-in-law thought the idea of naming computers
was so cute he wrote a song for Xorn in the key of the cowboy's horse
losing its master to another more important person.
And the monster theme was kept on my home network to this day, although my
printers have often been named after chainsaws [for chewing up wood], and
first color laser was called crayon for my then young daughter who used it
to print her artwork.
@ Stellar I had astronomical index of stars on the top of my file cabinet
and people to come to me to get names. We keep that pretty consistent for
all the SW systems for the first 2-3 years. I even reduxed the index at
Ammasso a few years later.
@ DEC we were pretty free to use what we wanted and some were themed, most
were boring.
But I'm sad to say, Intel seems to have little sense of humor with regards
to what name I might set the system too locally. I can set to anything I
want, but the moment I connect it to the internal network, the IT network
gods rename in the form: {WWUSERNAME}-{SYSTEMTYPE}{GENERATION#} - no
exceptions. My new system due in a sometime this spring will named:
ctcole-mac05
So an arp on my home network shows all these interesting names, then one
really, boring one ... and its mine. sigh.... so, so, sad....
Clem
10:11 p.m.
New subject: Names of famous, historical UNIX machines?
On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 05:06:38PM -0500, Clem Cole wrote:
But I'm sad to say, Intel seems to have little
sense of humor with regards
to what name I might set the system too locally. I can set to anything I
want, but the moment I connect it to the internal network, the IT network
gods rename in the form: {WWUSERNAME}-{SYSTEMTYPE}{GENERATION#} - no
exceptions. My new system due in a sometime this spring will named:
ctcole-mac05
Intel was a major customer of ours for years and I can vouch for their lack
of sense of humor. I visited Portland and Santa Clara and I have never
seen a more grey cubicle farm in my life.
So an arp on my home network shows all these
interesting names, then one
really, boring one ... and its mine. sigh.... so, so, sad....
Indeed. Though bigtit might have been a step too far :)
--lm
10:28 p.m.
New subject: Names of famous, historical UNIX machines?
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Larry McVoy <lm(a)mcvoy.com> wrote:
I visited Portland and Santa Clara and I have never
seen a more grey cubicle farm in my life.
I don't remember which comic it was, but about 8-10 years ago one the late
night comedy guys brought a film crew to SC and made that same exact
observation.
While Intel does do many things well, this one is part of company culture
and I'm not in a position to change it. I wish I could. I think the place
would be a small bit happier if it did not take itself quite so seriously,
but that's just my personal opinion.
As the late Roger Gourd used to say: *"Bring me to a sacred cow, and I'll
start up the sacred bbq." ;-) *
10:44 p.m.
New subject: Names of famous, historical UNIX machines?
One of the best things about DEC was the lack of taking itself too seriously.
11/730 product announcement for the Solar Horologue...
See the above in Google and Slashdot.
Wish I had a pdf to post.
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: Clem Cole <clemc(a)ccc.com>
To: Larry McVoy <lm(a)mcvoy.com>
Cc: TUHS main list <tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org>rg>, Noel Chiappa
<jnc(a)mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
Sent: Wed, 01 Feb 2017 17:28
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Names of famous, historical UNIX machines?
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Larry McVoy <lm(a)mcvoy.com> wrote:
I visited Portland and Santa Clara and I have never
seen a more grey cubicle farm in my life.
I don't remember which comic it was, but about 8-10 years ago one the late
night comedy guys brought a film crew to SC and made that same exact
observation.
While Intel does do many things well, this one is part of company culture
and I'm not in a position to change it. I wish I could. I think the place
would be a small bit happier if it did not take itself quite so seriously,
but that's just my personal opinion.
As the late Roger Gourd used to say: *"Bring me to a sacred cow, and I'll
start up the sacred bbq." ;-) *
2 Feb
2 Feb
1:14 a.m.
New subject: Names of famous, historical UNIX machines?
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:44 PM, William Pechter <pechter(a)gmail.com> wrote:
One of the best things about DEC was the lack of
taking itself too
seriously.
11/730 product announcement for the Solar Horologue...
See the above in Google and Slashdot.
Wish I had a pdf to post.
Bill
this one? http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102672049
the story: https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=76256&cid=6805264
This is awesome. Now I really want to build one ;)
Does anyone have that data sheet and would be so kind to scan it?
1:34 a.m.
New subject: Names of famous, historical UNIX machines?
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Rico Pajarola <rp(a)servium.ch> wrote:
That be the one and only implementation of same. I'm glad to see it was
saved from ZK03 and hope its now safely at the museum. I was worried
when HP sold the place, a number of the things in the old conference rooms
were lost.
Clem
1:18 a.m.
New subject: Names of famous, historical UNIX machines?
The creator of that little gem was Dick Hustvedt, a brilliant engineer with
a wicked sense of humor. He was one of the inventors of VAXclusters, as
well as of the SD730 Solar Horologue Option - see end of this post.
When in the VMS SYSGEN utility, and you asked for a list of the parameters,
the list included the units. The TIMEPROMPTWAIT parameter was unusual in
that values in one range did one thing, while values in another range did
something else. Dick wanted to encourage users to go read the manual for
the full explanation, so he had the units listed as microfortnights, hoping
that puzzled readers would go search out the details.
Sadly, Dick suffered severe brain injury in a car accident many years ago,
and was unable to return to work. The VMS team named a conference room in
his honor at the Nashua, NH facility where VMS engineering lives, and if
you visit it, you can see the prototype SD730, which was introduced as an
April Fools joke one year. Here's the text from the "Product Information
Sheet" for the SD730.
VAX-11/730
SD730 Fixed Head Solar Horologue
Overview
The SD730 is an option for the VAX-11/730(TM) that provides an inexpensive
solution to the problem of setting system time correctly following a power
failure. An astronomical reference is used to assure accuracy. Reliability
is assured by the simple, elegant design which employs well-proven
technology.
Description
The SD730 is a gnomonic high noon detector that provides a simple, but
elegant solution to the problem of setting system time correctly following
a power failure. This option is particularly valuable for processors
lacking battery backup for their time-of-year (TOY) clock.
Highlights
- Gnomonic interference high noon detector
- High accuracy assured by low-drift astronomical reference
- Connects to existing DR-11C port on VAX-11/730
- Proprietary high-moon rejection design
- Offline mode for standalone time measurement
- User installable and maintainable
- Reliability assured by minimal component count and proven technology
- Heavy duty construction resists solar wind
- Anti-corrosion coating prevents gnomonic plague
Description
The SD730 provides a single bit of data via the DR-11C port of the
VAX-11/730 that encodes all of its sensory information. Decoding is
accomplished by measuring the on/off intervals of this sensor channel.
Derivation of the time and date is accomplished by the SD730 Shadow
Processing Support Software.
Accurate high-noon sensing is obtained by measuring the solar transit time
and computing the midpoint. This algorithm also corrects for variations in
gnomon width, latitude and season. In the event that a cloudless night
permits a high full moon to be seen, it will be differentiated from an
authentic high noon by comparing observed transit time against a reference
solar transit time.
Within 24 hours following power restoration, the SD730 driver software will
restore the correct system time.
Power outages in excess of 24 hours can be accomodated once a reference
year has been accumulated. Day length, solar transit time and their rates
of change are used to recognize the day within the year.
Installation
The SD730 is user installable and comes complete with an installation kit
consisting of a lensatic compass. All software is self-installing and
self-calibrating. The only requirement is that system time be set correctly
and that at least one clear day be allowed for self calibration.
The SD730 will not operate reliably when installed at latitudes greater
than 60 degrees.
Maintenance
While the SD730 is simple and reliable, some environments may necessitate
periodic cleaning of the gnomon and photo-detector. Although the gnomon
shields the photo-detector from debris, this may not be sufficient for
particularly hazardous locations subject to overflights by large flocks of
migratory birds. To assist in problem detection, error log entries will be
made for days without sunshine and weeks without a high noon.
Support Software
A driver and other support software are supplied with the SD730. All
software runs on VAX/VMS.
An optional package is available to produce a local almanac sprinkled
liberally with gnomic sayings and weather predictions, all derived from one
year's solar date.
Options
For severe or hostile environments, a conversion kit consisting of a
fiber-optic cable and adapters is available to convert the SD730 to an
SD730-Tempest.
Specifications
I/O Adapter
DR-11C Connector (single bit)
Power Requirements
9 volt battery (alkaline recommended)
Battery not included
Optional solar cells available
Physical Characteristics
Packaging Free Standing Unit
Weight 4.5kg (10 lbs)
Height 86cm (34 inches)
Width 32cm (12.5 inches)
Depth 32cm (12.5 inches)
Operating Environment
Temperature 5 to 32 degrees C (41 to 90 F)
Relative Humidity 0 to 90%
Maximum Altitude 4.5km (15000 ft)
Latitude 0 to 60 degrees North (*)
Performance
Long Term Accuracy 1 second per year
Operational Reliability Consult your local weather service
*NOTE For installation in the southern hemisphere, order model SL730-SL.
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 5:44 PM, William Pechter <pechter(a)gmail.com> wrote:
One of the best things about DEC was the lack of
taking itself too
seriously.
11/730 product announcement for the Solar Horologue...
See the above in Google and Slashdot.
Wish I had a pdf to post.
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: Clem Cole <clemc(a)ccc.com>
To: Larry McVoy <lm(a)mcvoy.com>
Cc: TUHS main list <tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org>rg>, Noel Chiappa <
jnc(a)mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
Sent: Wed, 01 Feb 2017 17:28
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Names of famous, historical UNIX machines?
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Larry McVoy <lm(a)mcvoy.com> wrote:
I visited Portland and Santa Clara and I have
never
seen a more grey cubicle farm in my life.
I don't remember which comic it was, but about 8-10 years ago one the late
night comedy guys brought a film crew to SC and made that same exact
observation.
While Intel does do many things well, this one is part of company culture
and I'm not in a position to change it. I wish I could. I think the place
would be a small bit happier if it did not take itself quite so seriously,
but that's just my personal opinion.
As the late Roger Gourd used to say: *"Bring me to a sacred cow, and I'll
start up the sacred bbq." ;-) *
1:29 a.m.
New subject: Names of famous, historical UNIX machines?
Sorry -- I Hit send too soon - cut/pasted from slashdot.
Bill - if I can find a hardcopy. I'll scan it.
Clem
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Clem Cole <clemc(a)ccc.com> wrote:
The creator of that little gem was Dick Hustvedt, a
brilliant engineer
with a wicked sense of humor. He was one of the inventors of VAXclusters,
as well as of the SD730 Solar Horologue Option - see end of this post.
When in the VMS SYSGEN utility, and you asked for a list of the
parameters, the list included the units. The TIMEPROMPTWAIT parameter was
unusual in that values in one range did one thing, while values in another
range did something else. Dick wanted to encourage users to go read the
manual for the full explanation, so he had the units listed as
microfortnights, hoping that puzzled readers would go search out the
details.
Sadly, Dick suffered severe brain injury in a car accident many years ago,
and was unable to return to work. The VMS team named a conference room in
his honor at the Nashua, NH facility where VMS engineering lives, and if
you visit it, you can see the prototype SD730, which was introduced as an
April Fools joke one year. Here's the text from the "Product Information
Sheet" for the SD730.
VAX-11/730
SD730 Fixed Head Solar Horologue
Overview
The SD730 is an option for the VAX-11/730(TM) that provides an inexpensive
solution to the problem of setting system time correctly following a power
failure. An astronomical reference is used to assure accuracy. Reliability
is assured by the simple, elegant design which employs well-proven
technology.
Description
The SD730 is a gnomonic high noon detector that provides a simple, but
elegant solution to the problem of setting system time correctly following
a power failure. This option is particularly valuable for processors
lacking battery backup for their time-of-year (TOY) clock.
Highlights
- Gnomonic interference high noon detector
- High accuracy assured by low-drift astronomical reference
- Connects to existing DR-11C port on VAX-11/730
- Proprietary high-moon rejection design
- Offline mode for standalone time measurement
- User installable and maintainable
- Reliability assured by minimal component count and proven technology
- Heavy duty construction resists solar wind
- Anti-corrosion coating prevents gnomonic plague
Description
The SD730 provides a single bit of data via the DR-11C port of the
VAX-11/730 that encodes all of its sensory information. Decoding is
accomplished by measuring the on/off intervals of this sensor channel.
Derivation of the time and date is accomplished by the SD730 Shadow
Processing Support Software.
Accurate high-noon sensing is obtained by measuring the solar transit time
and computing the midpoint. This algorithm also corrects for variations in
gnomon width, latitude and season. In the event that a cloudless night
permits a high full moon to be seen, it will be differentiated from an
authentic high noon by comparing observed transit time against a reference
solar transit time.
Within 24 hours following power restoration, the SD730 driver software
will restore the correct system time.
Power outages in excess of 24 hours can be accomodated once a reference
year has been accumulated. Day length, solar transit time and their rates
of change are used to recognize the day within the year.
Installation
The SD730 is user installable and comes complete with an installation kit
consisting of a lensatic compass. All software is self-installing and
self-calibrating. The only requirement is that system time be set correctly
and that at least one clear day be allowed for self calibration.
The SD730 will not operate reliably when installed at latitudes greater
than 60 degrees.
Maintenance
While the SD730 is simple and reliable, some environments may necessitate
periodic cleaning of the gnomon and photo-detector. Although the gnomon
shields the photo-detector from debris, this may not be sufficient for
particularly hazardous locations subject to overflights by large flocks of
migratory birds. To assist in problem detection, error log entries will be
made for days without sunshine and weeks without a high noon.
Support Software
A driver and other support software are supplied with the SD730. All
software runs on VAX/VMS.
An optional package is available to produce a local almanac sprinkled
liberally with gnomic sayings and weather predictions, all derived from one
year's solar date.
Options
For severe or hostile environments, a conversion kit consisting of a
fiber-optic cable and adapters is available to convert the SD730 to an
SD730-Tempest.
Specifications
I/O Adapter
DR-11C Connector (single bit)
Power Requirements
9 volt battery (alkaline recommended)
Battery not included
Optional solar cells available
Physical Characteristics
Packaging Free Standing Unit
Weight 4.5kg (10 lbs)
Height 86cm (34 inches)
Width 32cm (12.5 inches)
Depth 32cm (12.5 inches)
Operating Environment
Temperature 5 to 32 degrees C (41 to 90 F)
Relative Humidity 0 to 90%
Maximum Altitude 4.5km (15000 ft)
Latitude 0 to 60 degrees North (*)
Performance
Long Term Accuracy 1 second per year
Operational Reliability Consult your local weather service
*NOTE For installation in the southern hemisphere, order model SL730-SL.
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 5:44 PM, William Pechter <pechter(a)gmail.com> wrote:
One of the best things about DEC was the lack of
taking itself too
seriously.
11/730 product announcement for the Solar Horologue...
See the above in Google and Slashdot.
Wish I had a pdf to post.
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: Clem Cole <clemc(a)ccc.com>
To: Larry McVoy <lm(a)mcvoy.com>
Cc: TUHS main list <tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org>rg>, Noel Chiappa <
jnc(a)mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
Sent: Wed, 01 Feb 2017 17:28
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Names of famous, historical UNIX machines?
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Larry McVoy <lm(a)mcvoy.com> wrote:
I visited Portland and Santa Clara and I have
never
seen a more grey cubicle farm in my life.
I don't remember which comic it was, but about 8-10 years ago one the
late
night comedy guys brought a film crew to SC and made that same exact
observation.
While Intel does do many things well, this one is part of company culture
and I'm not in a position to change it. I wish I could. I think the
place
would be a small bit happier if it did not take itself quite so seriously,
but that's just my personal opinion.
As the late Roger Gourd used to say: *"Bring me to a sacred cow, and I'll
start up the sacred bbq." ;-) *
1:11 p.m.
New subject: Names of famous, historical UNIX machines?
Clem Cole <clemc(a)ccc.com> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Larry McVoy
<lm(a)mcvoy.com> wrote:
It was Conan O'Brien. You can find it on YouTube.
I visited Portland and Santa Clara and I have
never
seen a more grey cubicle farm in my life.
I don't remember which comic it was, but about 8-10 years ago one the late
night comedy guys brought a film crew to SC and made that same exact
observation. While Intel does do many things well, this one is part
of company culture
and I'm not in a position to change it. I wish I could.
It's a huge blind spot for Intel. They tout it as "everyone is equal"
but they miss that noone who needs peace and quiet to work can work
productively.
I think the place
would be a small bit happier if it did not take itself quite so seriously,
but that's just my personal opinion.
Yes, as a fellow Intel employee, I'd have to agree.
Sigh.
Arnold
4 Feb
4 Feb
3:46 a.m.
New subject: Names of famous, historical UNIX machines?
About a decade ago, I attended a workshop at an Intel location in
Mass. There were about 50 outside people. We were in a rather nice
room across from a break room which provided coffee and sodas.
Just as we were about to start, someone showed up and informed us all
that the break room was for the exclusive use of Intel Employees, and
outside visitors were not permitted to use it. And then they left.
The Intel hosts rolled their eyes and set up a system whereby we could
ask an Intel employee to get us whatever we wanted from the break
room. The workshop was pretty good anyway...
----- Original Message -----
From: arnold(a)skeeve.com
To:<lm@mcvoy.com>, <clemc(a)ccc.com>
Cc:<tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>, <jnc(a)mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
Sent:Thu, 02 Feb 2017 06:11:23 -0700
Subject:Re: [TUHS] Names of famous, historical UNIX machines?
Clem Cole <clemc(a)ccc.com> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Larry McVoy
<lm(a)mcvoy.com> wrote:
the late
I visited Portland and Santa Clara and I have
never
seen a more grey cubicle farm in my life.
I don't remember which comic it was, but about 8-10 years ago one night comedy guys brought a film crew to SC and made
that same
exact
observation.
It was Conan O'Brien. You can find it on YouTube.
While Intel does do many things well, this one is part
of company
culture
and I'm not in a position to change it. I wish I
could.
It's a huge blind spot for Intel. They tout it as "everyone is equal"
but they miss that noone who needs peace and quiet to work can work
productively.
I think the place
would be a small bit happier if it did not take itself quite so
seriously,
but that's just my personal opinion.
Yes, as a fellow Intel employee, I'd have to agree.
Sigh.
Arnold
3:56 a.m.
New subject: Names of famous, historical UNIX machines?
Intel was a big customer of ours and we found it highly amusing how
secretive they were about CPU code names and product plans. You could
go to Wikipedia and see all that stuff. At the time they thought it
was a secret.
They were just as secretive about their employees. Yet you could look
up any one of them on Linkedin and see what they've been doing at Intel.
Strange culture. Seems to generate some good CPUs but I wonder if that
is because of that culture or in spite of it?
On Fri, Feb 03, 2017 at 07:46:47PM -0800, Steve Johnson wrote:
About a decade ago, I attended a workshop at an Intel
location in
Mass.?? There were about 50 outside people.?? We were in a rather nice
room across from a break room which provided coffee and sodas.
Just as we were about to start, someone showed up and informed us all
that the break room was for the exclusive use of Intel Employees, and
outside visitors were not permitted to use it.?? And then they left.??
The Intel hosts rolled their eyes and set up a system whereby we could
ask an Intel employee to get us whatever we wanted from the break
room.?? The workshop was pretty good anyway...
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From: arnold(a)skeeve.com
To:<lm@mcvoy.com>, <clemc(a)ccc.com>
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Sent:Thu, 02 Feb 2017 06:11:23 -0700
Subject:Re: [TUHS] Names of famous, historical UNIX machines?
Clem Cole <clemc(a)ccc.com> wrote:
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Larry McVoy lm at mcvoy.com http://www.mcvoy.com/lm
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Larry McVoy
<lm(a)mcvoy.com> wrote:
the late
I visited Portland and Santa Clara and I have
never
seen a more grey cubicle farm in my life.
I don't remember which comic it was, but about 8-10 years ago one night comedy guys brought a film crew to SC and
made that same
exact
observation.
It was Conan O'Brien. You can find it on YouTube.
While Intel does do many things well, this one is
part of company
culture
and I'm not in a position to change it. I
wish I could.
It's a huge blind spot for Intel. They tout it as "everyone is equal"
but they miss that noone who needs peace and quiet to work can work
productively.
I think the place
would be a small bit happier if it did not take itself quite so
seriously,
but that's just my personal opinion.
Yes, as a fellow Intel employee, I'd have to agree.
Sigh.
Arnold
10:48 p.m.
New subject: Names of famous, historical UNIX machines?
On 3 February 2017 at 22:56, Larry McVoy <lm(a)mcvoy.com> wrote:
[...]
Strange culture. Seems to generate some good CPUs but
I wonder if that
is because of that culture or in spite of it?
Well, there are stories such as this ->
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/07/10/intels_tanglewood_pumped_full/
N.
1 Feb
1 Feb
10:26 p.m.
New subject: Names of famous, historical UNIX machines?
https://emaillab.jp/pub/hosts/19840210/HOSTS.TXT
This is a version of the HOSTS file that I found in some of my old
floppies that was (sadly) truncated because of a bad sector (or twenty).
This was from my teens when I was floating around the ARPANET.
Some very interesting stuff here at the base site:
https://emaillab.jp/dns/hosts/
On 2/1/2017 4:20 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
From: Clem
Cole
don't expect a lot of wild and crazy names
Yeah, those arrived when places started to get lots of identical machines,
and needed a theme to name them. So I remember MIT-LCS had VAX 750's called
Tide, Borax, etc (cleaners); MIT-AI had Suns called Grape-Nuts, Wheaties, etc
(cereals).
I know other places had similar name sets, but I can't recall the themes of
any of them - although looking at an old HOSTS.TXT, I see CMU had systems
called Faraday, Gauss, etc, while Purdue had Fermat, Newton, etc; U-Texas had
Disney characters, BBN had fish, U-Washington had South Pacific islands - the
list just goes on and on.
Google for a old Host file, that's a good source if you want to know more.
Noel
2 Feb
2 Feb
7:38 a.m.
New subject: Names of famous, historical UNIX machines?
Arthur Krewat wrote:
https://emaillab.jp/pub/hosts/19840210/HOSTS.TXT
This is a version of the HOSTS file that I found in some of my old
floppies
Two observations:
- There were many Foonlies around the net.
- WAITS wasn't just running at SAIL, but also at S-1.
But this is off topic, so I'll shut up now.
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