12 Sep
2016
12 Sep
'16
10:16 p.m.
Norman wrote
The earliest stream-I/O-system-based tty driver I'm aware of was
already in the Research kernel when I interviewed at Bell Labs
in early 1984. I have a vague memory that it was a couple of
years older than that, but I cannot find any citations to
back up either of those memories.
Dennis described streams in the special Unix issue of the
BSTJ, Oct 1984, and noted that "it runs on about 20 machines in
... Research ... Although it is being investigated in other
parts of AT&T Bell Laboratories, it is not generally available."
The manuscript was received October 18, 1983.
Doug
Doug
12 Sep
12 Sep
10:27 p.m.
New subject: BSD/v8 TCP/IP
I worked on the STREAMS based TCP/IP stack (at the time at Lachman
Associates but I think the code came from Convergent, not sure).
I ported it to the ETA-10 (weird machine) and also to SCO (yeah,
sorry if you have to use that mess).
I had quite a few conversations with dmr about it and he educated me
that there was STREAMS and there was streams. His was the latter
and it was like it was in the paper plus a few fixes. The STREAMS
stuff was god awful. I'm so glad that I've almost forgotten about
how awful.
On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 04:16:20PM -0400, Doug McIlroy wrote:
Norman wrote
The earliest stream-I/O-system-based tty driver I'm aware of was
already in the Research kernel when I interviewed at Bell Labs
in early 1984. I have a vague memory that it was a couple of
years older than that, but I cannot find any citations to
back up either of those memories.
Dennis described streams in the special Unix issue of the
BSTJ, Oct 1984, and noted that "it runs on about 20 machines in
... Research ... Although it is being investigated in other
parts of AT&T Bell Laboratories, it is not generally available."
The manuscript was received October 18, 1983.
Doug
Doug
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Larry McVoy lm at mcvoy.com http://www.mcvoy.com/lm
10:36 p.m.
New subject: BSD/v8 TCP/IP
I worked on the STREAMS based TCP/IP stack (at the
time at Lachman
Associates but I think the code came from Convergent, not sure).
My memory of CTIX was that it was a native in-kernel BSD(-ish)
implementation. At least for the SVR2-derived CTIX kernels. I don't ever
recall a STREAMS-based implementation from Convergent, but I stopped using
CTIX in the fall of 1988.
--lyndon
10:42 p.m.
New subject: BSD/v8 TCP/IP
Doug McIlroy <doug(a)cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote:
Dennis described streams in the special Unix issue of
the
BSTJ, Oct 1984, and noted that "it runs on about 20 machines in
... Research ... Although it is being investigated in other
parts of AT&T Bell Laboratories, it is not generally available."
The manuscript was received October 18, 1983.
Interesting, but then nobody did run a modern shell on one of these machines or
everybody did type slowly, so the character lossage problem did not occur.
Jörg
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