Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog(a)lemis.com> wrote: |On Tuesday, 24 April 2018 at 8:06:12 -0400, Noel Chiappa wrote: |>> From: Paul Winalski <paul.winalski(a)gmail.com> |> |>> Regarding the Winchester code name, I've argued about this with Clem |>> before. Clem claims that the code name refers to various advances in |>> disk technology first released in the 3330's disk packs. Wikipedia and |>> my own memory agree with you that Winchester referred to the 3340. |> |> And you believe anything in Wikipedia? | |Yes, most things, especially if they match my preconceived notions. | |To be fair, Wikipedia is relatively accurate. And if you find |something wrong in it and don't fix it, you have only yourself to |blame. It is not that easy. For example there are people which "sit" there for a long time. Not all of them are good. For example i saw an absolutely inacceptible abstract on the jubilee of the battle of the somme in german wikipedia, which would have been correct only if russians lifes have not the same value than those of others. My own account is blacklisted because of the IP range my reseller uses, and there are strange people here which do not only soil nature, poison animals and drive races with their BMWs, but they seem to soil Wikipedia, too. (I never did so!) Unfortunately the entire address range is blocked, i complained but logging in with password is impossible. (Seems to be the same problem that Zoulas' blacklist daemon fixes so nicely by patching daemons which know what a connection is about, with shell hooks which then can manage the firewall. Much, much better than having a script iterating over textual server logs periodically.) I could create a SSH tunnel to my server and connect from there, though. I have this option now. So i could fix the german wikipedia entries on the MBOX format etc., which seem to have been written to prompt someone who cares and fixes the false. On the other hand the german desk of the chemicals department have even won a price. (You know, german and chemicals is a love story: nitrogen fertilizer, mustard gas, neonicotinoids ... The americans are not even to blame for monsanto anymore!) --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)

Dave Horsfall <dave(a)horsfall.org> wrote: |On Wed, 25 Apr 2018, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: | |>|To be fair, Wikipedia is relatively accurate. And if you find |>|something wrong in it and don't fix it, you have only yourself to |>|blame. |> |> It is not that easy. For example there are people which "sit" |> there for a long time. Not all of them are good. [...] | |Wikipedia simply cannot be trusted (as if it ever could). | |You will get some imbecile who thinks that they "own" that topic, and when |you challenge said moron because you happen to have personal information |i.e. you were *there* at the time then the coward will simply block you. | |Wikipedia is only as accurate as the last idiot who updated it. Unfortunately all reference texts like Encyclopedia Britannica now only exist in online versions; the Encyclopedia Britannica was one of the first i think (according to [1] computer mouse is even as old as 1963-64!), the "Fischer Weltalmanach" the last i know of; mourning of loss in German at [2], titled "A Victim on the Altar of Availability"; me too: when i was young it was of value to have an entire cupboard of editorially edited general knowledge at home. [1] https://www.britannica.com/biography/Douglas-Engelbart [2] https://derstandard.at/2000077097204/Fischer-Weltalmanach-Ein-Opfer-auf-dem… --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)

wikipedia and politics is a bad mixture. wikipedia and religion is a bad mixture. wikipedia and ego is a bad mixture. Imagine wikipedia articles edited and counteredited by the Newton crowd and the Leibnitz crowd during that long dispute over who had had priority, who had borrowed, who had stolen, who had ... (censored) (censored) (censored) .... Subjects where there is plentiful knowledge, even if it is obscure - Calculus, Old English, the structure of the Unix file system, Lewis Carroll's poem the Jabberwocky, the shape of the British constitution and its offshoots, etc - they tend to reproduce the best known data. On other matters, it can be decidedly iffy. Wesley Parish On 4/28/18, Ian Zimmerman <itz(a)very.loosely.org> wrote: