In message: <46b366130905182313l1dc757cdr47449749da930efe(a)mail.gmail.com> Jason Stevens <neozeed(a)gmail.com> writes: : I kind of figured that's why the PDP-11 & z8000 sys3 stuff up & : disappeared... Although I have to wonder, as someone who paid SCO : (Old sco I think) the $100 for an ancient unix license, what did it : cover again? : : It was sooooo long ago.. But I'm guessing it was research 1-7 & 32v...? : : Wait I see what it covered in here: : : http://minnie.tuhs.org/Seminars/Saving_Unix/ : : While i'd love to have some kind of sysv for a vax (even the 780 which : simh can run...) I would suspect the license cost would simply be : astronomical... lol it'd be probably more feasable to port Solaris 10 : to the 11/780... (yes I'm kidding!). NetBSD should work on vax :) : There is also a wealth of information on googles "groups" with : information from the 1980's taken from usenet backup tapes, it would : be 'neat' to have them online in some kind of NNTP server that tin or : pine could actually read... So you could browse this massive : 'database' of unix knowledge from an ancient unix (well one that has : either local news with all the google groups, or a TCP enabled : unix...) Google kinda did this with dejanews. Some love it, most tolerate it... Warner : Anyways I can tell I'm rambling, and the cat is jumping on the : keyboard so I'm off to bed. : : On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Aharon Robbins <arnold(a)skeeve.com> wrote: : > What a lovely thought! : > : > ISTR that many of the papers in the 1978 issue were from the V7 : > distribution, so the text is around, but not in that format. : > DMR could probably clarify more about those issues. (Please?) : > : > I own paper copies of both, although I'm not sure I could find them : > quickly if necessary. :-) : > : > I doubt that SysIII is free, even the 16 bit stuff; the userland is : > more interesting than the kernel land, and that stuff didn't really care : > (much) about 16 vs. 32 bit. : > : > Arnold : > : >> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 23:20:03 -0300 : >> From: Rafael R Obelheiro <rro(a)das.ufsc.br> : >> To: tuhs(a)tuhs.org : >> : >> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 01:27:50PM -0400, Jason Stevens wrote: : >> > I'd love to get as much of literature, ads, pdf's & stuff for all the : >> > research editions, and package them up to celebrate the 40th... : >> : >> On a related note, does anyone know if the 1978 and 1984 issues of the : >> Bell System Technical Journal dedicated to UNIX have been made : >> available online, or if this is even a possibility? AFAIK, a few : >> papers have appeared here and there, but having the full collection : >> would be another nice way of celebrating the 40 years... : >> : >> Best regards, : >> Rafael : >> : >> > : >> > I've been doing some limited stuff with v1 & the BSD stuff but it'd be : >> > fun to do something for 1/4/5/6/32v... : >> > : >> > Oh and now that Im thinking about it, is the 16bit SYSIII stuff free? : >> > I know it was 'ok' by the fact it had been omitted by the opening memo : >> > that had stated that the 32bit versions of SYSIII & SYSV were not : >> > free... : >> > : >> > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Tim Newsham <newsham(a)lava.net> wrote: : >> > > So when do the official celebrations begin?  What's a good estimate : >> > > of the month and date in 1969 when it all began? : >> > > : >> > > Tim Newsham : >> > > http://www.thenewsh.com/~newsham/ : >> > > _______________________________________________ : >> > > TUHS mailing list : >> > > TUHS(a)minnie.tuhs.org : >> > > https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs : >> > > : >> > _______________________________________________ : >> > TUHS mailing list : >> > TUHS(a)minnie.tuhs.org : >> > https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs : >> _______________________________________________ : >> TUHS mailing list : >> TUHS(a)minnie.tuhs.org : >> https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs : >> : > : > _______________________________________________ : > TUHS mailing list : > TUHS(a)minnie.tuhs.org : > https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs : > : > : _______________________________________________ : TUHS mailing list : TUHS(a)minnie.tuhs.org : https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs : :

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:12 AM, M. Warner Losh <imp(a)bsdimp.com> wrote: But it's not System V, now is it... For some, that may be an advantage, but if you want to run SysV for some reason, then BSD, be it of the 4.3 or the NET variety isn't really the answer. Maybe we can lean on Novell to update the Ancient Unix license and add Sys III and Sys V (or at least at the versions prior the SVR4), though. It couldn't hurt. Personally, though, I'd rather see V8-V10 of research Unix made available. It would be interesting to see firsthand how we got from Unix to Plan 9...