23 Jun
2018
23 Jun
'18
5:32 a.m.
All, I've had a fair bit of positive feedback for my TUHS work. In reality
I'm just the facilitator, collecting the stuff that you send me and keeping
the mailing list going.
I think we've captured nearly all we can of the 1970s Unix in terms of
software. After that it becomes commercial, but I am building up the
"Hidden Unix" archive to hold that. Just wish I could open that up ...
What we haven't done a good job yet is to collect other things: photos,
stories, anecdotes, scanned ephemera.
Photos & scanned things: I'm very happy to collect these, but does anybody
know of an existing place that accepts (and makes available online) photos
and scanned ephemera? They are a bit out of scope for bitsavers as far as
I can tell, but I'm happy to be corrected. Al? Other comments here?
Stories & anecdotes: definitely type them in & e-mail them in and/or e-mail
them to me if you want me just to preserve them. There is the Unix wiki I
started here: https://wiki.tuhs.org/doku.php?id=start, but maybe there is
already a better place. Gunkies?
Interviews: Sometimes it's easier to glean stories & knowledge with interviews.
I've never tried this but perhaps it's time. Who is up to have an audio
interview? I'll worry about the technical details eventually, but is there
interest?
All of the above would slot in with the upcoming 50th anniversary. If you
do have photos, bits of paper, stories to tell etc., then let's try to
preserve them so that they are not lost.
Cheers all, Warren
23 Jun
23 Jun
5:41 a.m.
On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 03:32:16PM +1000, Warren Toomey wrote:
All of the above would slot in with the upcoming 50th anniversary. If you
do have photos, bits of paper, stories to tell etc., then let's try to
preserve them so that they are not lost.
Archive.org is great at this sort of thing. It may be worth reaching
out to Jason Scott (jason(a)textfiles.com) for assistance with some of the
digital artifacts. His personal area of interest is more in the 80s BBS
era, but he knows the ins and outs of preserving things in context. It
doesn't hurt that he's a great guy, too.
khm
11:22 a.m.
What about starting the TUHS channel on YouTube collecting pieces of UNIX
history in video format? Personally I really enjoy watching video
presentations about UNIX and other computer technologies of the past. It
gives you a more deeper insight into this forgotten and ancient world we
all know and miss. Those videos are truly acting as time capsules.
Perhaps one of my favorite is this one, taken from the AT&T Archives:
https://youtu.be/tc4ROCJYbm0
--Andy
5:48 a.m.
I wonder if you've talked with Peter Salus: he must have had a veritable
trove of interesting and useful source material for the 25 Years of Unix
book.
On Sat, Jun 23, 2018, 1:32 AM Warren Toomey <wkt(a)tuhs.org> wrote:
All, I've had a fair bit of positive feedback for
my TUHS work. In reality
I'm just the facilitator, collecting the stuff that you send me and keeping
the mailing list going.
I think we've captured nearly all we can of the 1970s Unix in terms of
software. After that it becomes commercial, but I am building up the
"Hidden Unix" archive to hold that. Just wish I could open that up ...
What we haven't done a good job yet is to collect other things: photos,
stories, anecdotes, scanned ephemera.
Photos & scanned things: I'm very happy to collect these, but does anybody
know of an existing place that accepts (and makes available online) photos
and scanned ephemera? They are a bit out of scope for bitsavers as far as
I can tell, but I'm happy to be corrected. Al? Other comments here?
Stories & anecdotes: definitely type them in & e-mail them in and/or e-mail
them to me if you want me just to preserve them. There is the Unix wiki I
started here: https://wiki.tuhs.org/doku.php?id=start, but maybe there is
already a better place. Gunkies?
Interviews: Sometimes it's easier to glean stories & knowledge with
interviews.
I've never tried this but perhaps it's time. Who is up to have an audio
interview? I'll worry about the technical details eventually, but is there
interest?
All of the above would slot in with the upcoming 50th anniversary. If you
do have photos, bits of paper, stories to tell etc., then let's try to
preserve them so that they are not lost.
Cheers all, Warren
7:16 a.m.
On Saturday, 23 June 2018 at 1:48:50 -0400, Dan Cross wrote:
I wonder if you've talked with Peter Salus: he
must have had a veritable
trove of interesting and useful source material for the 25 Years of Unix
book.
Yes, as I read the previous messages I wondered why he hasn't been
mentioned before. I'm also surprised that he's not on this list.
Greg
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7:32 a.m.
On Sat, 23 Jun 2018, Warren Toomey wrote:
All of the above would slot in with the upcoming 50th
anniversary. If
you do have photos, bits of paper, stories to tell etc., then let's try
to preserve them so that they are not lost.
That would depend upon the Statute of Limitations (I'm in NSW, Australia)
and boy, can I tell some stories from the 70s/80s...
The snag is that Australia has about the toughest defamation laws in the
world.
Let's see: the boss of XXX Dept was known to be having it off with his
secretary (despite being married, but not to her).
Said boss was also observed rolling along the corridors in the
afternoon, and the operators had to intervene whenever he was
observed simply bouncing off the computer room door.
A boss of another dept was known to show his staff how to roll and smoke a
joint.
Should we need a "sealed section"?
-- Dave
11:43 p.m.
On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 03:32:16PM +1000, Warren Toomey wrote:
What we haven't done a good job yet is to collect
other things: photos,
stories, anecdotes, scanned ephemera.
A few updates. I e-mailed Peter Salus about QCU primary sources. He wrote:
Sorry to say (a) most of the photos were borrowed (from, e.g. Kirk
McKusick and Debbie Scherrer) and then returned. The transcripts of
interviews, etc., were on a DEC back-up tape that went astray about 20
years ago, but even then, I knew no one who could read it. (You know,
when QCU was in process, Addison-Wesley was just installing a way to
receive mss. electronically.)
So I'll hit on these people and others soon :-)
Jason Scott from archive.org wrote:
We're absolutely a good home for scanned ephemera and photos. We do
a lot of it. Examples of collections we have:
https://archive.org/details/bitsavers
https://archive.org/details/manuals
https://archive.org/details/catalogs
You can begin to scan things and we can host it generally, and then as
the set grows we can make you a collection.
Therefore, I propose that we start uploading scans of Unix photos and
memorabilia to archive.org and then ask Jason to make a collection to
hold all of this. How does that sound?
Cheers, Warren
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