On Sunday, 10 September 2017 at 21:15:38 -0700, Jacob Ritorto wrote: Not only UCB, but the USSR too! Stalin would have been horrified. Greg -- Sent from my desktop computer. Finger grog(a)lemis.com for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA

Dave Horsfall <dave(a)horsfall.org> wrote: |On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Jacob Ritorto wrote: |> See that, people.. Now they're associating Berkeley with fascism. ;) | |How did the saying go, about Berkeley producing both BSD and LSD, and not |thought to be a coincidence? No, LSD came from Hofmann, Albert, of Switzerland, found by experimenting on himself. (This is i think worth noting for multiple reasons, first of all because of the fact itself, in line with good old tradition of sciencists, as far as i know, then because this was in 1943, and i also had to read a horrifying vivisection story (with non-human life forms) not to long ago, where people got space in an english scifientic magazine for i think it was either about acid or fire injuries, and i do know now that mice start intense licking when their skin faces acid (or fire), mind you, i know free (wood) mice which are brave and rush onto your shoes, free rats which open tunnels only to allow you to have a look at newborns with eyes closed, and squirrels which just say hello, if you once in a while spend some nuts and sunflower seeds. It will surely help improving something, though.) But Ecstasy (MDA/MDMA) and such where developed by Alexander Shulgin of California. --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)

UCBVAX is simulated, DECWRL is real hardware I need to find again. Sent from my iPhone