1 Sep
2021
1 Sep
'21
1:30 p.m.
...
DEC Diagnositcs would run on a beached whale
?
Anyone remember and/or know?
(It seems to apply to other manufacturer's diagnostics as well, even today.)
Thanks,
Arnold
1 Sep
1 Sep
1:48 p.m.
I believe the line was: *"running **DEC Diagnostics is like kicking a dead
whale down the beach.*"
As for who said it, I'm not sure, but I think it was someone like Rob
Kolstad or Henry Spencer.
I suspect a grep of some type on some extremely old net.noise archives of
the late 1970s/early 1980s might find it.
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On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 9:31 AM <arnold(a)skeeve.com> wrote:
...
DEC Diagnositcs would run on a beached whale
?
Anyone remember and/or know?
(It seems to apply to other manufacturer's diagnostics as well, even
today.)
Thanks,
Arnold
1:55 p.m.
I heard this from my boss in the form "Mainframe programming is like moving
a dead whale along the beach by kicking it" around 1985.
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 9:49 AM Clem Cole <clemc(a)ccc.com> wrote:
I believe the line was: *"running **DEC
Diagnostics is like kicking a
dead whale down the beach.*"
As for who said it, I'm not sure, but I think it was someone like Rob
Kolstad or Henry Spencer.
I suspect a grep of some type on some extremely old net.noise archives of
the late 1970s/early 1980s might find it.
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On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 9:31 AM <arnold(a)skeeve.com> wrote:
...
DEC Diagnositcs would run on a beached whale
?
Anyone remember and/or know?
(It seems to apply to other manufacturer's diagnostics as well, even
today.)
Thanks,
Arnold
1:57 p.m.
It was DMR who said
Using TSO is like kicking a dead whale along a beach.
My orginal quote about the diagnostics is correct, I'm pretty sure.
Thanks,
Arnold
Clem Cole <clemc(a)ccc.com> wrote:
I believe the line was: *"running **DEC
Diagnostics is like kicking a dead
whale down the beach.*"
As for who said it, I'm not sure, but I think it was someone like Rob
Kolstad or Henry Spencer.
I suspect a grep of some type on some extremely old net.noise archives of
the late 1970s/early 1980s might find it.
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On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 9:31 AM <arnold(a)skeeve.com> wrote:
> ...
> DEC Diagnositcs would run on a beached whale
>
> ?
>
> Anyone remember and/or know?
>
> (It seems to apply to other manufacturer's diagnostics as well, even
> today.)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Arnold
>
2:26 p.m.
On Wed, 1 Sept 2021 at 09:49, Clem Cole <clemc(a)ccc.com> wrote:
I believe the line was: *"running **DEC
Diagnostics is like kicking a
dead whale down the beach.*"
As for who said it, I'm not sure, but I think it was someone like Rob
Kolstad or Henry Spencer.
I suspect a grep of some type on some extremely old net.noise archives of
the late 1970s/early 1980s might find it.
This was the earliest reference I could easily find, from
comp.unix.questions in Jan '87, but the author says it's an old joke.
It's
the last post in the thread:
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.unix.questions/c/fFtkBC3TcLc/m/QphFGT7BAfsJ
-Henry
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On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 9:31 AM <arnold(a)skeeve.com> wrote:
...
DEC Diagnositcs would run on a beached whale
?
Anyone remember and/or know?
(It seems to apply to other manufacturer's diagnostics as well, even
today.)
Thanks,
Arnold
3:08 p.m.
of course, the dead whale joke just reminds me of that epic scene from “The Boys” tv
show.
never mind.
andrew
4:42 p.m.
Another fun saying about TSO: "It may be slow, but it's hard to use."
Not sure the origin.
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 9:10 AM Ron Natalie <ron(a)ronnatalie.com> wrote:
--
- Tom
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DEC Diagnositcs would run on a beached whale
?
Anyone remember and/or know?
I believe this was Mike Muuss and he used the term "dead whale" in
deference to the TSO comment.
5:41 p.m.
Or JCL “It’s as easy to read one file as it is to read 1000 files."
On 2021, Sep 1, at 12:42 PM, Tom Lyon via TUHS
<tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org> wrote:
Another fun saying about TSO: "It may be slow, but it's hard to use."
Not sure the origin.
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 9:10 AM Ron Natalie <ron(a)ronnatalie.com
<mailto:ron@ronnatalie.com>> wrote:
--
- Tom
...
DEC Diagnositcs would run on a beached whale
?
Anyone remember and/or know?
I believe this was Mike Muuss and he used the term "dead whale" in
deference to the TSO comment.
8 p.m.
I first heard it at usenix 1980.
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021, 10:52 AM Lawrence Stewart <stewart(a)serissa.com> wrote:
Or JCL “It’s as easy to read one file as it is to read
1000 files."
On 2021, Sep 1, at 12:42 PM, Tom Lyon via TUHS <tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org>
wrote:
Another fun saying about TSO: "It may be slow, but it's hard to use."
Not sure the origin.
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 9:10 AM Ron Natalie <ron(a)ronnatalie.com> wrote:
--
- Tom
...
DEC Diagnositcs would run on a beached whale
?
Anyone remember and/or know?
I believe this was Mike Muuss and he used the term "dead whale" in
deference to the TSO comment.
8:04 p.m.
It's coming back slowly. It was in response to problems with a dh11. DEC
engineer:"did you run diagnostics." Response: as quoted.
The other one: DEC engineer: "dh11 can run at a megabit". Response: "in a
good wind. "
Same person, vague memory is Mike O'Dell? Is that name right?
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021, 1:00 PM ron minnich <rminnich(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I first heard it at usenix 1980.
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021, 10:52 AM Lawrence Stewart <stewart(a)serissa.com>
wrote:
> Or JCL “It’s as easy to read one file as it is to read 1000 files."
>
> On 2021, Sep 1, at 12:42 PM, Tom Lyon via TUHS <tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org>
> wrote:
>
> Another fun saying about TSO: "It may be slow, but it's hard to use."
>
> Not sure the origin.
>
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 9:10 AM Ron Natalie <ron(a)ronnatalie.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> >...
>> > DEC Diagnositcs would run on a beached whale
>> >
>> >?
>> >
>> >Anyone remember and/or know?
>> >
>> I believe this was Mike Muuss and he used the term "dead whale" in
>> deference to the TSO comment.
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>
> --
> - Tom
>
>
>
9:47 p.m.
I also remember, vividly, that it was scj's quote about TSO.
Having used TSO, I think he was being kind.
-rob
On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 6:05 AM ron minnich <rminnich(a)gmail.com> wrote:
It's coming back slowly. It was in response to
problems with a dh11. DEC
engineer:"did you run diagnostics." Response: as quoted.
The other one: DEC engineer: "dh11 can run at a megabit". Response: "in a
good wind. "
Same person, vague memory is Mike O'Dell? Is that name right?
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021, 1:00 PM ron minnich <rminnich(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I first heard it at usenix 1980.
>
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2021, 10:52 AM Lawrence Stewart <stewart(a)serissa.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Or JCL “It’s as easy to read one file as it is to read 1000 files."
>>
>> On 2021, Sep 1, at 12:42 PM, Tom Lyon via TUHS <tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Another fun saying about TSO: "It may be slow, but it's hard to
use."
>>
>> Not sure the origin.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 9:10 AM Ron Natalie <ron(a)ronnatalie.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >...
>>> > DEC Diagnositcs would run on a beached whale
>>> >
>>> >?
>>> >
>>> >Anyone remember and/or know?
>>> >
>>> I believe this was Mike Muuss and he used the term "dead whale" in
>>> deference to the TSO comment.
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> - Tom
>>
>>
>>
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