In message: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0404071153290.26120-100000@gladen> Andru Luvisi &lt;luvisi(a)andru.sonoma.edu&gt; writes: : Some people mentioned it being out of print. I was wondering, has anyone : tried purchasing it from : : http://www.peer-to-peer.com/catalog/opsrc/lions.html : : They don't seem to have any indication on the web site that it is out of : print, and they have a link to it from their home page : (http://www.peer-to-peer.com/). it was out of print for a while, but was republished a few years ago... I have both copies and can tell you that the republished version is true to the original. Warner

I tried a few months ago and it is no longer available from them. They suggested I try used book web pages. There is a copy available on half.com as of this writing for around $100. Eric Wayte Sr. DBA Univ. of Central Florida ewayte(a)pegasus.cc.ucf.edu On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, Andru Luvisi wrote:

On Tuesday, 13 April 2004 at 18:35:02 -0400, Mirian Crzig Lennox wrote: Somewhere I had a TeX source file of it that went round alt.folklore.computers about ten years ago. I took a brief look yesterday but couldn't find it. If I try harder, there's a good chance that I will. Would anybody be interested? Greg -- Note: I discard all HTML mail unseen. Finger grog(a)lemis.com for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers.

On Tuesday, 13 April 2004 at 20:06:43 -0400, Tim Shoppa wrote: Yes, that's the one I got. From memory, the subject was "Leo's notes" and it was uuencoded or some such. Strangely, not many people got it. Do you still have the text? I haven't found mine yet, but a number of people have expressed interest. Greg -- Note: I discard all HTML mail unseen. Finger grog(a)lemis.com for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers.

On 2004-Apr-14 09:46:25 +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey &lt;grog(a)lemis.com&gt; wrote: Google agrees that the subject was "Leo's notes" and it was posted in 7 uuencoded parts in mid-June 1994. Unfortunately, Google doesn't appear to have kept a copy of the posting (just the whinges about the size). I don't remember seeing it (I don't think I looked at AFC very often then) and don't seem to have a copy. I'd also be interested if anyone still has a copy. -- Peter Jeremy

On Wednesday, 14 April 2004 at 11:16:26 +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: I didn't recall that it was that many. Unfortunately, I didn't retain the original articles. Google appears to be wrong about the date, though: my copy is dated May 19, 1994. Yes, I've found it now and put it up in multiple formats at http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/Lions/. Enjoy! Greg -- Note: I discard all HTML mail unseen. Finger grog(a)lemis.com for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mirian Crzig Lennox" &lt;list-tuhs(a)cosmic.com&gt; When you describe the notes as having been "roughly-typewritten" I think that you may have been misled by the quality of the printer that was used. According to the 'Acknowledgements' in Lions: 'The co-operation of the "nroff" program must also be mentioned. Without it, these notes could never have been produced in this form. However it has yielded some of its more enigmatic secrets so reluctantly, that the author's gratitude is indeed mixed. Certainly "nroff" itself must provide a fertile field for future practitioners of the program ducumenter's art.'

Hello from Gregg C Levine Actually, no your not. I do. Even though my contacts with computer technology was rather limited, until about thirty odd years ago, and on and off, during the eighties. For example, a shop that my father ran, which did typesetting, used a pair of teletypes to communicate with the host. (Host wasn't a DEC system, he was a related unit.) And surprisingly enough, one of their customers was AT&T, they sent over a manuscript they were having problems setting using the exact same methods being discussed here. My copy of the C manual, that all of us know who wrote, says it was done that way as well. ------------------- Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon(a)worldnet.att.net ------------------------------------------------------------ "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Use the Force, Luke."  Obi-Wan Kenobi [mailto:tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org] On of all in think was used.