10 Aug
2020
10 Aug
'20
10:49 p.m.
All,
About a week ago, Bill English passed away. He was a Xerox guy, who
along with Douglas Engelbart of "Mother of all demos" fame, created our
beloved mouse:
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53638033
I remember, back in the mid-1980's being part of a focus group
evaluating Microsoft's mouse. Wow, time flies.
-Will
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11 Aug
11 Aug
2:01 p.m.
Thanks, Will. A mild sigh while reading it though because history seems to
often forget Jack Hawley's role. Truth is he did not invent it, but he
>is<< the one that made them and got people to
use them (the Xerox Alto's
used a Hawley Mouse, DEC would use it, E&S used
them etc.). As this
article points out, he made about 80% of all the mice used in the 1970s:
https://www.oldmouse.com/mouse/hawley/ - certainly the first ones I used
at CMU before we got the Altos and then after the first Alto's appeared.
Tek's Magnolia used a flavor of the Hawley mouse in 1979 [the ones with
buttons horizontal/parallel to the 'body' - the original Alto mouse the
buttons were horizontal and colored), but I don't remember what 3Rivers
PascAlto used - I think so, but I don't remember.
On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 6:50 PM Will Senn <will.senn(a)gmail.com> wrote:
All,
About a week ago, Bill English passed away. He was a Xerox guy, who along
with Douglas Engelbart of "Mother of all demos" fame, created our beloved
mouse:
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53638033
I remember, back in the mid-1980's being part of a focus group evaluating
Microsoft's mouse. Wow, time flies.
-Will
--
GPG Fingerprint: 68F4 B3BD 1730 555A 4462 7D45 3EAA 5B6D A982 BAAF
5:30 p.m.
The Sun 1 also had a Hawley mouse ( as an early option ), before they switched to the
optical.
Earl
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 11, 2020, at 10:03 AM, Clem Cole
<clemc(a)ccc.com> wrote:
Thanks, Will. A mild sigh while reading it though because history seems to often forget
Jack Hawley's role. Truth is he did not invent it, but he >>is<< the
one that made them and got people to use them (the Xerox Alto's used a Hawley Mouse,
DEC would use it, E&S used them etc.). As this article points out, he made about 80%
of all the mice used in the 1970s: https://www.oldmouse.com/mouse/hawley/ - certainly
the first ones I used at CMU before we got the Altos and then after the first Alto's
appeared.
Tek's Magnolia used a flavor of the Hawley mouse in 1979 [the ones with buttons
horizontal/parallel to the 'body' - the original Alto mouse the buttons were
horizontal and colored), but I don't remember what 3Rivers PascAlto used - I think
so, but I don't remember.
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 6:50 PM Will Senn <will.senn(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> All,
>
> About a week ago, Bill English passed away. He was a Xerox guy, who along with
Douglas Engelbart of "Mother of all demos" fame, created our beloved mouse:
>
> https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53638033
>
> I remember, back in the mid-1980's being part of a focus group evaluating
Microsoft's mouse. Wow, time flies.
>
> -Will
> --
> GPG Fingerprint: 68F4 B3BD 1730 555A 4462 7D45 3EAA 5B6D A982 BAAF
5:40 p.m.
On 2020, Aug 11, at 1:30 PM, Earl Baugh
<earl.baugh(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The Sun 1 also had a Hawley mouse ( as an early option ), before they switched to the
optical.
Earl
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 11, 2020, at 10:03 AM, Clem Cole <clemc(a)ccc.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks, Will. A mild sigh while reading it though because history seems to often
forget Jack Hawley's role. Truth is he did not invent it, but he >>is<<
the one that made them and got people to use them (the Xerox Alto's used a Hawley
Mouse, DEC would use it, E&S used them etc.). As this article points out, he made
about 80% of all the mice used in the 1970s: https://www.oldmouse.com/mouse/hawley/
<https://www.oldmouse.com/mouse/hawley/> - certainly the first ones I used at CMU
before we got the Altos and then after the first Alto's appeared.
>
> Tek's Magnolia used a flavor of the Hawley mouse in 1979 [the ones with buttons
horizontal/parallel to the 'body' - the original Alto mouse the buttons were
horizontal and colored), but I don't remember what 3Rivers PascAlto used - I think
so, but I don't remember.
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 6:50 PM Will Senn <will.senn(a)gmail.com
<mailto:will.senn@gmail.com>> wrote:
> All,
>
> About a week ago, Bill English passed away. He was a Xerox guy, who along with
Douglas Engelbart of "Mother of all demos" fame, created our beloved mouse:
>
> https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53638033
<https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53638033>
>
> I remember, back in the mid-1980's being part of a focus group evaluating
Microsoft's mouse. Wow, time flies.
>
> -Will
> --
> GPG Fingerprint: 68F4 B3BD 1730 555A 4462 7D45 3EAA 5B6D A982 BAAF
Hawley built the first mice used by PARC. The first optical mouse was invented, AFAIK, by
Dick Lyon, see http://www.dicklyon.com/tech/OMouse/OpticalMouse-Lyon.pdf
<http://www.dicklyon.com/tech/OMouse/OpticalMouse-Lyon.pdf> This paper has a brief
history of Xerox mechanical mice as well.
Dick is just a renaissance engineer, with contributions to hearing aids, the Fovea camera,
and he later designed the Google Street View cameras. His book on Human and Machine
Hearing is outstanding.
-L
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