5 Jan
2019
5 Jan
'19
8:30 p.m.
> From: Doug McIlroy
> I have heard also that Isaacson's "Idea
Factory" (about Bell Labs)
Did you mean the work of this title by Jon Gertner? (I
have yet to pull
down my copy to see what it says about Unix
I looked, and it too says next to nothing about Unix (which it describes as a
"programming language" - pg. 346). Oh well.
This is really a pretty serious omission, given that the vast majority of
mobile devices now run Android, which is a Unix derivative (Linux). So just
about everyone has a Unix-derived thing in their pocket.
Noel
5 Jan
5 Jan
9:04 p.m.
New subject: Isaacson v Unix
I looked, and it too says next to nothing about Unix
(which it describes as a
"programming language" - pg. 346). Oh well.
Pretty funny, or sad, depending on your viewpoint!
This is really a pretty serious omission, given that
the vast majority of
mobile devices now run Android, which is a Unix derivative (Linux). So just
about everyone has a Unix-derived thing in their pocket.
To hear some people talk, everything started with Linux, and Torvalds
is a god. Nonsense.
Even iOS and MacOS are derived from BSD, I believe. I know that MacOS
is (or has been until relatively recently, at any rate) derived from
BSD.
On 1/5/19, Noel Chiappa <jnc(a)mercury.lcs.mit.edu> wrote:
> >> From: Doug McIlroy
>
> >> I have heard also that Isaacson's "Idea Factory" (about
Bell Labs)
>
> > Did you mean the work of this title by Jon Gertner? (I have yet to
> pull
> > down my copy to see what it says about Unix
>
> I looked, and it too says next to nothing about Unix (which it describes as
> a
> "programming language" - pg. 346). Oh well.
>
This is really a pretty serious omission, given that
the vast majority of
mobile devices now run Android, which is a Unix derivative (Linux). So just
about everyone has a Unix-derived thing in their pocket.
>
> Noel
>
9:26 p.m.
New subject: Isaacson v Unix
On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 8:04 AM Ed Carp <erc(a)pobox.com> wrote:
MacOS X is derived from BSD + Mach VM, with lots of infusions from BSD and
other projects. iOS is derived from MacOS.
Warner
I looked, and
it too says next to nothing about Unix (which it describes
as a
"programming language" - pg. 346). Oh
well.
Pretty funny, or sad, depending on your viewpoint!
This is really a pretty serious omission, given
that the vast majority of
mobile devices now run Android, which is a Unix derivative (Linux). So
just
about everyone has a Unix-derived thing in their
pocket.
To hear some people talk, everything started with Linux, and Torvalds
is a god. Nonsense.
Even iOS and MacOS are derived from BSD, I believe. I know that MacOS
is (or has been until relatively recently, at any rate) derived from
BSD.
On 1/5/19, Noel Chiappa
<jnc(a)mercury.lcs.mit.edu> wrote:
as
> From:
Doug McIlroy
> I have heard also that Isaacson's
"Idea Factory" (about Bell Labs)
Did you mean the work of this title by Jon
Gertner? (I have yet to
pull
down my copy to see what it says about Unix
I looked, and it too says next to nothing about Unix (which it describes a
"programming language" - pg. 346). Oh well.
This is really a pretty serious omission, given that the vast majority of
mobile devices now run Android, which is a Unix derivative (Linux). So
just
about everyone has a Unix-derived thing in their
pocket.
Noel
9:37 p.m.
New subject: Isaacson v Unix
On Jan 5, 2019, at 10:26 AM, Warner Losh
<imp(a)bsdimp.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 8:04 AM Ed Carp <erc(a)pobox.com <mailto:erc@pobox.com>>
wrote:
I think that it is more clearly expressed as MacOS X has a BSD interface to the Mach VM.
Mach has always had this sort of relationship with BSD and it still exists.
iOS…
Ben
I looked, and it too says next to nothing about
Unix (which it describes as a
"programming language" - pg. 346). Oh well.
Pretty funny, or sad, depending on your viewpoint!
This is really a pretty serious omission, given
that the vast majority of
mobile devices now run Android, which is a Unix derivative (Linux). So just
about everyone has a Unix-derived thing in their pocket.
To hear some people talk, everything started with Linux, and Torvalds
is a god. Nonsense.
Even iOS and MacOS are derived from BSD, I believe. I know that MacOS
is (or has been until relatively recently, at any rate) derived from
BSD.
MacOS X is derived from BSD + Mach VM, with lots of infusions from BSD and other
projects. iOS is derived from MacOS.
Warner
On 1/5/19, Noel Chiappa <jnc(a)mercury.lcs.mit.edu
<mailto:jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>> wrote:
> >> From: Doug McIlroy
>
> >> I have heard also that Isaacson's "Idea Factory" (about
Bell Labs)
>
> > Did you mean the work of this title by Jon Gertner? (I have yet to
> pull
> > down my copy to see what it says about Unix
>
> I looked, and it too says next to nothing about Unix (which it describes as
> a
> "programming language" - pg. 346). Oh well.
>
> This is really a pretty serious omission, given that the vast majority of
> mobile devices now run Android, which is a Unix derivative (Linux). So just
> about everyone has a Unix-derived thing in their pocket.
>
> Noel
>
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