Tobias Russell wrote: If you have an RD53 and an RX50, I take it you have an RQDX3 disk controller. These things will also swallow IBM PC 5.25" HD diskdrives (at least some of them), which will be recognized as RX33's. If you *also* have a PC equipped with a HD 5.25" diskdrive (which may be a hard thing..), and access to 5.25" HD diskettes, you could set up 2.11BSD using this method. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. I should have: 1) an XXDP bootdisk + RQDX3 formatter (if you want to re-format your RD53, which may be a wise idea) 2) A 2.11BSD boot diskette, containing kernel, part, mkfs and restor 3) A dump of ROOT, devided over RX33 disks. Once you have unpacked the root fs, you should be able to sneakernet the remaining distribution files over - although I think you might need to snip a bit, it's probably not going to fit on your RD53. It can be done. I've done it twice. It's a slow process, but that also applies to vtserver. On the other hand, using vtserver, you can leave the whole process unattended. Using floppies, you'll need to be physically present :-/ -- Martijn van Buul - Pino(a)dohd.org - http://www.stack.nl/~martijnb/ Geek code: G-- - Visit OuterSpace: mud.stack.nl 3333 Kees J. Bot: The sum of CPU power and user brain power is a constant.