8 Nov
2003
8 Nov
'03
12:30 p.m.
Hi
All
I am trying to lauch a xterm window on a remote machine and then once the
xterm window is launched from the remote machine I am trying to start a gui
on the xterm window.
The following is the command I am using to start the xterm .It is failing
and giving the error.
remsh hostname " . /home/john/.profile >/dev/null 2> /dev/null;xterm"
stty: invalid command
xterm Xt error: Can't open display
also can you let me know once the xterm is open how do we lauch the gui on
the xterm window using the same remoteshell.The gui name is nam_gui.
Regards,
Naveen
8 Nov
8 Nov
12:49 p.m.
On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 06:00:57PM +0530, Philip, Naveen J (Naveen) wrote:
Hi
All
I am trying to lauch a xterm window on a remote machine and then once the
xterm window is launched from the remote machine I am trying to start a gui
on the xterm window.
Naveen, this is a mailing list about Heritage Unix. I don't think
your question counts as such, unless you're running X11R3 on a Sun2
or something similar.
Cheers,
Warren
9:30 p.m.
New subject: Heritage X (was Re: Lauch Gui using remote xterm!!)
--- Warren Toomey <wkt(a)tuhs.org> wrote:
On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 06:00:57PM +0530, Philip,
Naveen J (Naveen) wrote:
Speaking of X on Heritage Unix I have a Sun 3/60M with the 1280x1024 monochrome
display. The only display server I have ever gotten to work on it is on NetBSD
1.3 running the pre-XFree86 X11R6.
I'm wondering if there are any older UNIXes I could use. Does Sun still keep
SunOS 4 under wraps or can it be used for non-commerical purposes at no cost?
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Hi
All
I am trying to lauch a xterm window on a remote machine and then once the
xterm window is launched from the remote machine I am trying to start a gui
on the xterm window.
Naveen, this is a mailing list about Heritage Unix. I don't think
your question counts as such, unless you're running X11R3 on a Sun2
or something similar.
Cheers,
Warren 
9 Nov
9 Nov
7:22 p.m.
New subject: Heritage X (was Re: Lauch Gui using remote xterm!!)
On 2003.11.08 13:30 Kenneth Stailey wrote:
Does Sun still keep SunOS 4 under wraps or can it be
used for non-commerical purposes at no cost?
You can download SunOS for sun3 legal
and for free from
http://www.sun3zoo.de/
--
tschüß,
Jochen
Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz
11 Nov
11 Nov
8:13 a.m.
New subject: Heritage X (was Re: Lauch Gui using remote xterm!!)
I've personally thought that Sun should release the source trees of its old
BSD-based SunOS with the idea of getting back onside with all the Linux and
Unix people it pissed off by its "buying" a "Unix" license from SCO,
the
Societe Commercial du On-Dit, the Commercial Society of Rumourmongers.
I was also thinking - there's enough free MC68K emulation stuff out there -
for Mac, Amiga, Atari, etc - that writing a Sun3 emulator should be
relatively easy.
What do Sun-worshippers ;^) think?
Wesley Parish
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:22, Jochen Kunz wrote:
On 2003.11.08 13:30 Kenneth Stailey wrote:
--
Clinesterton Beademung - in all of love.
Mau e ki, "He aha te mea nui?"
You ask, "What is the most important thing?"
Maku e ki, "He tangata, he tangata, he tangata."
I reply, "It is people, it is people, it is people."
Does Sun still keep SunOS 4 under wraps or can it
be
used for non-commerical purposes at no cost?
You can download SunOS for sun3 legal and for free from
http://www.sun3zoo.de/ 
12:15 p.m.
New subject: Heritage X (was Re: Lauch Gui using remote xterm!!)
* Wesley Parish wrote:
I've personally thought that Sun should release
the source trees of its old
BSD-based SunOS with the idea of getting back onside with all the Linux and
Unix people it pissed off by its "buying" a "Unix" license from SCO,
the
Societe Commercial du On-Dit, the Commercial Society of Rumourmongers.
I suspect that releasing source to virtually any substantial, recent
commercial Unix is a hideous political nightmare. They almost
certainly have code that came from many other companies, under lots of
different license agreements, none of which were designed to allow for
open source distribution, and every one of which has to be looked at
very carefully in case someone pops up and sues. And all the code
will have been mangled together in all sorts of exciting ways.
I remember that getting BSD 4.x released was a huge saga, and SunOS4
is bound to be much worse politically.
I was also thinking - there's enough free MC68K
emulation stuff out there -
for Mac, Amiga, Atari, etc - that writing a Sun3 emulator should be
relatively easy.
Surely small Sun3s should be easy to come by? They were until
recently, anyway.
--tim
3:09 p.m.
New subject: Heritage X (was Re: Lauch Gui using remote xterm!!)
On Nov 11, 2003, at 3:13 AM, Wesley Parish wrote:
I've personally thought that Sun should release
the source trees of
its old
BSD-based SunOS with the idea of getting back onside with all the
Linux and
Unix people it pissed off by its "buying" a "Unix" license from SCO,
the
Societe Commercial du On-Dit, the Commercial Society of Rumourmongers.
I was also thinking - there's enough free MC68K emulation stuff out
there -
for Mac, Amiga, Atari, etc - that writing a Sun3 emulator should be
relatively easy.
What do Sun-worshippers ;^) think?
A Sun 3 emulator would kick butt! So would an Sun 4c or 4m emulator
... and I'm sure modern PowerPC and Intel chips are fast enough to do
it well.
- Derrik
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6:15 p.m.
New subject: Heritage X (was Re: Lauch Gui using remote xterm!!)
--- Wesley Parish <wes.parish(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote:
I've personally thought that Sun should release
the source trees of its old
BSD-based SunOS with the idea of getting back onside with all the Linux and
Unix people it pissed off by its "buying" a "Unix" license from SCO,
the
Societe Commercial du On-Dit, the Commercial Society of Rumourmongers.
I was also thinking - there's enough free MC68K emulation stuff out there -
for Mac, Amiga, Atari, etc - that writing a Sun3 emulator should be
relatively easy.
Like very easy:
http://theory.lcs.mit.edu/~fredette/tme/index.html
What do Sun-worshippers ;^) think?
Wesley Parish
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:22, Jochen Kunz wrote:
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On 2003.11.08 13:30 Kenneth Stailey wrote:
--
Clinesterton Beademung - in all of love.
Mau e ki, "He aha te mea nui?"
You ask, "What is the most important thing?"
Maku e ki, "He tangata, he tangata, he tangata."
I reply, "It is people, it is people, it is people."
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be
used for non-commerical purposes at no cost?
You can download SunOS for sun3 legal and for free from
http://www.sun3zoo.de/
14 Nov
14 Nov
4:43 a.m.
New subject: Heritage X (was Re: Lauch Gui using remote xterm!!)
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--- Wesley Parish <wes.parish(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote:
I was able to the the tme sun2 to work with the serial console on a FreeBSD
4.9-STABLE box. The GTK GUI had problems that I will look at later.
$ tip sun2
can't open log file /var/log/aculog.
connected
Self Test completed successfully.
Sun Workstation, Model Sun-2/120 or Sun-2/170, Sun-2 keyboard
ROM Rev R, 4MB memory installed
Serial #4393, Ethernet address 8:0:20:DE:AD:BF
Probing Multibus: sd
Using RS232 A input.
Auto-boot in progress...
Boot: sd(0,0,0)vmunix
Waiting for disk to spin up...
Please start it, if necessary, -OR- press any key to quit.
I've personally thought that Sun should
release the source trees of its old
BSD-based SunOS with the idea of getting back
onside with all the Linux and
Unix people it pissed off by its
"buying" a "Unix" license from SCO, the
Societe Commercial du On-Dit, the Commercial Society of Rumourmongers.
I was also thinking - there's enough free MC68K emulation stuff out there -
for Mac, Amiga, Atari, etc - that writing a Sun3
emulator should be
relatively easy.
Like very easy:
http://theory.lcs.mit.edu/~fredette/tme/index.html ?
What?
r
SS: 00000FFC?
US: 00400000?
SF: 00000003?
Does anyone have suggestions where to get SunOS for a sun2?
What do
Sun-worshippers ;^) think?
Wesley Parish
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:22, Jochen Kunz wrote:
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http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs On 2003.11.08 13:30 Kenneth Stailey wrote:
--
Clinesterton Beademung - in all of love.
Mau e ki, "He aha te mea nui?"
You ask, "What is the most important thing?"
Maku e ki, "He tangata, he tangata, he tangata."
I reply, "It is people, it is people, it is people."
_______________________________________________
TUHS mailing list
TUHS(a)minnie.tuhs.org
http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs Does Sun still keep SunOS 4 under wraps or can it
be
used for non-commerical purposes at no cost?
You can download SunOS for sun3 legal and for free from
http://www.sun3zoo.de/ 
4:12 p.m.
New subject: Heritage X (was Re: Lauch Gui using remote xterm!!)
[snip]
Does anyone have suggestions where to get SunOS for a sun2?
[snip]
While you are looking for a copy, you can try NetBSD/sun2.
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New subject: old SunOS (was Re: Heritage X (was Re: Lauch Gui using remote xterm!!))
--- Brad Spencer <brad(a)anduin.eldar.org> wrote:
[snip]
Does anyone have suggestions where to get SunOS for a sun2?
[snip]
While you are looking for a copy, you can try NetBSD/sun2.
Hmm. I started out wanting to run X11 on a Sun3. How did I end up here?
I have a Sun3. I have installed various NetBSD versions. I found that only
1.3 supports X11. Others initialize to the point of drawing the stipple
background halfway down the screen and then coredump. Pro'lly segfault.
I was interested in running real SunOS on my real Sun3 and found it was
available for no cost.
Warren asked about a Sun3 emulator and I found a Sun2 one. I was hoping to do
trial SunOS installations on an emulator but it appears I'm ahead of my time.
:)
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15 Nov
15 Nov
12:21 a.m.
New subject: old SunOS (was Re: Heritage X (was Re: Lauch Gui using remotexterm!!))
I was interested in running real SunOS on my real Sun3 and found it was
available for no cost.
Warren asked about a Sun3 emulator and I found a Sun2 one. I was
hoping to do
trial SunOS installations on an emulator but it appears I'm ahead
of my time.
:)
I'd love to have a sun3 emulator for old time's sake.
After a bit of research, the sun3x architecture in general and the 3/80
model in particular look like the most straightforward choice. There are
several open-source choices for the CPU/MMU/FPU core and there appears to be
a decent amount of documentation and (driver) reference code to code the
emulation of the internal devices.
www.sun3arc.org and www.sun3zoo.de are a trip down memory lane, if for no
other reason than having known the folks running these sites and having had
an office on the floor where the servers appear to be physically located.
I don't know if it would be easier to modify or expand an existing emulator
for a box of similar complexity or starting from scratch, but in either case
it seems like a solvable problem. To finally drop the question, who would be
interested in working on such an emulator?
Cheers
-Markus
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