jkunz(a)unixag-kl.fh-kl.de wrote: If he did, why would he want a VAX? Someone who detests "modern" pee sea hardware and prefers the vastly superior classical DEC stuff (like I do) would surely feel the same way about software (again like I do). Why should one treat hardware and software differently in this respect? Why mix-and-match the wonderful classical hardware with crappy bloated "modern" software? -- Michael Sokolov Harhan Engineering Laboratory Public Service Agent International Free Computing Task Force International Engineering and Science Task Force 615 N GOOD LATIMER EXPY STE #4 DALLAS TX 75204-5852 USA Phone: +1-214-824-7693 (Harhan Eng Lab office) E-mail: msokolov(a)ivan.Harhan.ORG (ARPA TCP/SMTP) (UUCP coming soon) Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA48765 for pups-liszt; Sat, 27 May 2000 08:22:49 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au) Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA48761 for <pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au>au>; Sat, 27 May 2000 08:22:44 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from bdc(a)world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com (bdc(a)world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by europe.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA20256 for <pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au>au>; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:21:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (bdc@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA28977 for <pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au>au>; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:21:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 15:21:49 -0700 From: Brian Chase <bdc(a)world.std.com> To: pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Subject: Re: Dead MicroVAX II :( In-Reply-To: <0005262051.AA18987(a)ivan.Harhan.ORG> Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.4.21.0005261515050.22157-100000(a)world.std.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Precedence: bulk On Fri, 26 May 2000, Michael Sokolov wrote: > jkunz(a)unixag-kl.fh-kl.de wrote: > > > If he did, why would he want a VAX? Someone who detests "modern" pee > sea hardware and prefers the vastly superior classical DEC stuff (like > I do) would surely feel the same way about software (again like I do). > Why should one treat hardware and software differently in this > respect? Why mix-and-match the wonderful classical hardware with > crappy bloated "modern" software? This list is definitely geared towards people running classic OSes on classic systems. I actually really enjoy having lots of the bloated modern hardware running on my VAXen. So much contemporary software compiles and runs right out of the tarballs under NetBSD/vax. And honestly, a lot of it performs quite admirably on even my humblest of MicroVAX II's. I see nothing incompatible with loving modern OSes running well on ancient hardware. :-) -brian. --- Brian Chase | bdc(a)world.std.com | http://world.std.com/~bdc/ ----- All math equations have a fistfight on at least one side. -- K. Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA51832 for pups-liszt; Sun, 28 May 2000 01:50:42 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au)