21 Mar
2023
21 Mar
'23
3:39 p.m.
Hello,
30 years ago today on March 21st, 1993 at around
09:45:37 UTC, NetBSD was born!
I believe this makes NetBSD the oldest,
still-maintained and actively developed, free and open
source descendant of the Berkeley Software
Distribution (BSD), a true genetic Unix (albeit not
small-caps UNIX nor UNIX(tm)).
If you want to see what the source tree looked like
back then:
cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.netbsd.org:/cvsroot co -D "1993-03-21 09:45:37 GMT" src
Or browse the tree at that time:
https://www.netbsd.org/~jschauma/src-1993-03-21/
Unlike me, many on this list were around at the time
and place. Would love to hear some origin stories...
-Jan
21 Mar
21 Mar
5:13 p.m.
On Tue, Mar 21, 2023, 4:39 PM Jan Schaumann via TUHS <tuhs(a)tuhs.org> wrote:
Hello,
30 years ago today on March 21st, 1993 at around
09:45:37 UTC, NetBSD was born!
I believe this makes NetBSD the oldest,
still-maintained and actively developed, free and open
source descendant of the Berkeley Software
Distribution (BSD), a true genetic Unix (albeit not
small-caps UNIX nor UNIX(tm)).
2.11BSD is older and continuous... but admittedly much less so than NetBSD.
It was released in 1991 and has had almost 500 patches, the latest in the
last year. It traces back to 2.9BSD released in 1983. But it still is
basically only on the pdp-11...
Warner
If you want to see what the source tree looked like
back then:
cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.netbsd.org:/cvsroot co -D "1993-03-21 09:45:37
GMT" src
Or browse the tree at that time:
https://www.netbsd.org/~jschauma/src-1993-03-21/
Unlike me, many on this list were around at the time
and place. Would love to hear some origin stories...
-Jan
5:56 p.m.
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023, Warner Losh <imp(a)bsdimp.com> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 21, 2023, 4:39 PM Jan Schaumann via TUHS <tuhs(a)tuhs.org>
wrote:
Does anybody know what Chris Demetriou is doing these days? It appears like
he is not that much active in the open source community anymore. Basically
it was him, Theo and Charles Hannum that started NetBSD.
It was a great era. The community at large was definitely much more
enthusiastic and idealistic and computers were much more fun to play with
-- talking about early 386 PCs and Amigas.
NetBSD, FreeBSD and Linux -- all three great projects that still impact
modern computing environments!
--Andy
Hello,
30 years ago today on March 21st, 1993 at around
09:45:37 UTC, NetBSD was born!
I believe this makes NetBSD the oldest,
still-maintained and actively developed, free and open
source descendant of the Berkeley Software
Distribution (BSD), a true genetic Unix (albeit not
small-caps UNIX nor UNIX(tm)).
6:27 p.m.
On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 1:57 PM Andy Kosela <akosela(a)andykosela.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023, Warner Losh
<imp(a)bsdimp.com> wrote:
Does anybody know what Chris Demetriou is doing these days? It appears like he is not
that much active in the open source community anymore.
He was at Google at least a couple of years ago, when I left. I can't
recall what he was working on; something to do with infrastructure.
Basically it was him, Theo and Charles Hannum that
started NetBSD.
It was a great era. The community at large was definitely much more enthusiastic and
idealistic and computers were much more fun to play with -- talking about early 386 PCs
and Amigas.
NetBSD, FreeBSD and Linux -- all three great projects that still impact modern computing
environments!
In many ways, it was more exciting back then. In many ways, it's more
exciting now. Computers are pervasive and so much more powerful these
days, but on the other hand, it's so much harder to get things done.
- Dan C.
22 Mar
22 Mar
5:19 a.m.
On Mar 21, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Dan Cross <crossd(a)gmail.com> wrote:
In many ways, it was more exciting back then. In many ways, it's more
exciting now. Computers are pervasive and so much more powerful these
days, but on the other hand, it's so much harder to get things done.
"all alone, one week, one week, one week and we had Unix"
21 Mar
21 Mar
9:08 p.m.
On 3/21/2023 10:56 AM, Andy Kosela wrote:
Basically it was him, Theo and Charles Hannum that
started NetBSD.
I think Adam Glass was also one of the founders.
Adam and Chris were undergrads in the CS department at UC Berkeley
working in the Postgres group at the time.
Jon Forrest
10:35 p.m.
Mehdi Sadeghi wrote in
<75067767-dead-2b17-9314-ffe03dae318f(a)mehdix.org>rg>:
|According to the NetBSD guide one should run export CVS_RSH="ssh" before \
|running the command below, it would not respond otherwise, at least \
|not on my Arch Linux machine.
I would expect ArchLinux people to use their git and search-foo to
land and use the github mirror via https, practically.
(It is now stable i think. (Conversion problems in the past.))
--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)
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