Warren Toomey scripsit: Will you be able to put preprints on your own site or somewhere, so we can read 'em without having to worry about the paywall? -- If you understand, John Cowan things are just as they are; http://www.ccil.org/~cowan if you do not understand, cowan(a)ccil.org things are just as they are.

Excellent, congrats! I've been meaning to ask you what was up with your papers. I haven't done Usenix in perhaps 20 years, but maybe I should just for this. Indeed, thanks to one and all! Doug -- Professional Wild-eyed Visionary Member, Crusaders for a Better Tomorrow

Warren Toomey scripsit: Thanks; fascinating! Do the Net-2-derived BSDs (including Darwin) really count as Unix-derived? I thought they were fairly free of AT&T code now, other than headers and the like. Conceptually, of course, they are Unix-derived, but then so is Linux. It would be snazzy to restore the classical typography of Unix as U<small>NIX</small> in your paper. -- John Cowan cowan(a)ccil.org http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Statistics don't help a great deal in making important decisions. Most people have more than the average number of feet, but I'm not about to start a company selling shoes in threes. --Ross Gardler

In message: &lt;20090410162319.GB12970(a)mercury.ccil.org&gt; John Cowan &lt;cowan(a)ccil.org&gt; writes: : Warren Toomey scripsit: : : > Here is a very early draft: http://minnie.tuhs.org/Z/usendraft.pdf. : > Lots of typos etc. : : Thanks; fascinating! : : Do the Net-2-derived BSDs (including Darwin) really count as Unix-derived? Yes. : I thought they were fairly free of AT&T code now, other than headers and : the like. Conceptually, of course, they are Unix-derived, but then so : is Linux. There's 24 files that have AT&T copyright notice on them that are still present in the code. And there's dozens of files in SYS V that are bsd-derived that now have the proper UCB copyright notice. The link to Unix is direct and explicit in the 4.4-lite derived BSDs, unlike Linux, which has no AT&T code to speak of in it. Also, technically speaking, all the BSDs (including Darwin) are 4.4-lite derived these days, not net-2 derived, since all the projects switched to 4.4-lite as apart of the ucb/at&t settlement. See for example from FreeBSD: * Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993 * The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. * (c) UNIX System Laboratories, Inc. * All or some portions of this file are derived from material licensed * to the University of California by American Telephone and Telegraph * Co. or Unix System Laboratories, Inc. and are reproduced herein with * the permission of UNIX System Laboratories, Inc. * is found in: init_main.c kern_acct.c kern_clock.c kern_descrip.c kern_exit.c kern_fork.c kern_prot.c kern_resource.c kern_shutdown.c kern_sig.c kern_subr.c kern_synch.c kern_timeout.c sched_4bsd.c subr_param.c subr_prf.c sys_generic.c tty_info.c vfs_export.c vfs_lookup.c vfs_mount.c vfs_subr.c vfs_syscalls.c vfs_vnops.c All these files are explicitly OK based on the settlement of the UCB AT&T lawsuit. : It would be snazzy to restore the classical typography of Unix as : U<small>NIX</small> in your paper. That would be cool. Warner

On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Brad Parker wrote: Heh, yeah, certainly it wouldn't be very easy to get it up on something more familiar to *me*, like...an x86 :/ -uso.

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 04:38:51PM -0400, lyricalnanoha wrote: It should be relatively easy, as the Ersatz-11 emulator runs in DOS mode, so you could boot up MS-DOS or OpenDOS, run Ersatz-11 and then V1 on top! Or do you mean a native port :-) Warren