[TUHS] Re: 4.3 BSD version in the Unix Archive

Wed Oct 1 11:00:48 AEST 2003

Hello (again) from Gregg C Levine
The RPM file provided didn't build correctly. Remember I did say that
I use Slackware. I don't have a running instance of Red Hat here.
However, I was able to build a copy of SIMH straight from the current
source code.  One thing does get to me, though. This creation moves a
lot slower on SIMH/VAX, then NetBSD, which worked well enough. I'm
guessing that this is indeed a populated pack you have here, but do
you have any idea as to why it's practically moving slower then a
tortoise? This is running on a Pentium 100.

As to your question, yes they are working on it, moving through the
2.4.2x series of kernels. It isn't pretty, but it is working. If you
want to join the list to offer complements, or comments, or just lurk,
go to their website, and tell the list-manager that I sent you. He'll
give you a good seat.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Markus Weber [mailto:jmbw at nather.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 3:40 PM
> To: Gregg C Levine
> Subject: RE: [TUHS] Re: 4.3 BSD version in the Unix Archive
> 
> Hi Gregg!
> 
> The src.rpm was built on Redhat 7.3, but you should be able to
rebuild in on
> a more recent version of Redhat. There is, however, no reason not to
do a
> straight recompile of the simh sources. I simply prefer to package
> everything and thought I may save somebody else the bother.
> 
> My site runs Postnuke, which uses cookies internally. Unless you
want to
> create an account and login, I doubt that it matters one way or the
other if
> you reject the cookies or not.
> 
> I would guess that the primary objective of simh/vax is to run
OpenVMS,
> which it does just fine for me. If you wish, I can dig up a URL for
a
> beautiful installation-on-simh write-up. You can really follow the
standard
> instructions to the letter once simh is set up properly.
> 
> It looks like simh can run most, if not all, BSD's. I'm happy with
> Quasijaro - it has a certain sentimental value to observe 4.3BSD in
its
> native habitat. Quasijaro has issues, but they can be worked around.
NetBSD
> 1.5.2 works with a very minor install-time glitch. OpenBSD is the
one I
> still haven't figured out; there's an odd fatal error when mounting
the root
> filesystem. Or rather, there's something very odd about the in-core
> disklabel. Come to think of it, there is a common theme of problems
relating
> to disk labels and first-time access of disks. By and large, it's
not clear
> (to me) in any of these cases if the emulation is broken or simply
exposes
> flaws in the OS.
> 
> So the Linux/Vax project is still alive?
> 
> Cheers
> -Markus
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gregg C Levine [mailto:hansolofalcon at worldnet.att.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 2:02 PM
> To: 'Markus Weber'; tuhs at minnie.tuhs.org
> Subject: RE: [TUHS] Re: 4.3 BSD version in the Unix Archive
> 
> 
> Hello (again) from Gregg C Levine
> Just for the sake of argument, Markus, what was your build
environment
> for your SRC RPM version of SIMH? Personally I use Slackware Linux
> here, and the source code files straight from Bob's site. Also, that
> site kept wanting to set a cookie on my machine here. Is that a
normal
> process?
> 
> Incidentally, the folks building Linux for the VAX, also use
SIMH/VAX
> for testing, and sometimes even they have problems. So the comment
> regarding this product, and the VAX simulation is valid, just needs
to
> be further tested.
> 
> I, myself, have used it, to boot either VAX VMS, (Didnt workout how
> to install it on blank disk though.). or a relative of what we
> discuss, as well.
> -------------------
> Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon at worldnet.att.net
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> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tuhs-bounces at minnie.tuhs.org
> [mailto:tuhs-bounces at minnie.tuhs.org] On
> > Behalf Of Markus Weber
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:05 AM
> > To: Joseph F. Young; tuhs at minnie.tuhs.org
> > Subject: RE: [TUHS] Re: 4.3 BSD version in the Unix Archive
> >
> > Thanks to your help it works. Please see
> >
> >
>
http://www.itsecuritygeek.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=ar
> ticl
> > e&
> > sid=22
> >
> > for an annotated installation transcript. You'll find a
> pre-installed disk
> > image in the site's Download section.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joseph F. Young [mailto:jy99 at swbell.net]
> > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 1:50 PM
> > To: tuhs at minnie.tuhs.org
> > Cc: jy99 at swbell.net
> > Subject: [TUHS] Re: 4.3 BSD version in the Unix Archive
> >
> >
> >  From my experience, you need to have a recent release of SIMH in
> order to
> > run 4.3BSD.  A few months ago, I managed to build "working"
> Quasijarus and
> > Reno disk images (Quasijarus appears to work fine for me, but Reno
> is as
> > buggy as I remember it being on real hardware).  I had to use
Ultrix
> and
> > Netbsd to do the bootstrap/install; I could not get the tape boot
to
> work
> > at all.
> >
> >
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