[TUHS] SunOS 4.1.1?

[M. Warner Losh]

In message: <9552c7c8500326acee33a5cbe54df693 at coraid.com>
            Brantley Coile <brantley at coraid.com> writes:
: BSD never used anything that would have been covered by the System III
: or System V license.  The ancient Unix license would be fine for that.
: Howver, I'm pretty sure there is a lot of stuff in SunOS 4 that was from
: System III and System V.
: 
: To restate, BSD *.* is legal under the Ancient Unix license,
: which covers 32V and earlier.  Berkeley never had a liscense
: for anything later than 32V.

True.  When Sun took BSD 4.2, it had to buy a license from AT&T to
distribute.  With that license came the System V streams stuff, which
Sun included in SunOS 4.  There was much other technology from other
third parties in SunOS.  Just doing an audit of what came from where
would be expensive and time consuming...

It is unclear to me if Sun could retroactively apply the Ancient Unix
license or not given the code's derivation history.  I don't know what
their specific agreements with AT&T stipulate.  Again, another topic
for research, unless Novell is willing to grant a waver.

Warner


: > In message: <102AD3A8-168F-4407-9FA1-86CB2B97A198 at tfeb.org>
: >             Tim Bradshaw <tfb at tfeb.org> writes:
: > : On 21 Sep 2007, at 15:58, John Cowan wrote:
: > : 
: > : >
: > : > The best available story for the Sun3 code is that Sun doesn't
: > : > object to non-commercial use (which certainly is not the same
: > : > as an open source license).
: > : 
: > : I'm assuming that the source isn't available at all (I wonder if Sun  
: > : still have it?)
: > 
: > SunOS for the Sun3 machines was derived from BSD 4.2 with a lot of
: > code from other places.  BSD 4.2 requires an AT&T license because
: > there is still AT&T code in it.  As such, open sourcing it would be
: > difficult at best.
: > 
: > Based on what friends that work at sun tell me, the source can still
: > be obtained internally if necessary...  I never pressed them for
: > details on the rather curious way they put it (like I did just now).
: > 
: > Warner
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