[TUHS] SunOS 4.1.1?

[Bill Pechter]

On 9/21/07, M. Warner Losh <imp at bsdimp.com> wrote:
>
> In message: <9552c7c8500326acee33a5cbe54df693 at coraid.com>
>             Brantley Coile <brantley at coraid.com> writes:
> : BSD never used anything that would have been covered by the System III
> : or System V license.  The ancient Unix license would be fine for that.
> : Howver, I'm pretty sure there is a lot of stuff in SunOS 4 that was from
> : System III and System V.
> :
> : To restate, BSD *.* is legal under the Ancient Unix license,
> : which covers 32V and earlier.  Berkeley never had a liscense
> : for anything later than 32V.
>
> True.  When Sun took BSD 4.2, it had to buy a license from AT&T to
> distribute.  With that license came the System V streams stuff, which
> Sun included in SunOS 4.  There was much other technology from other
> third parties in SunOS.  Just doing an audit of what came from where
> would be expensive and time consuming...
>
> It is unclear to me if Sun could retroactively apply the Ancient Unix
> license or not given the code's derivation history.  I don't know what
> their specific agreements with AT&T stipulate.  Again, another topic
> for research, unless Novell is willing to grant a waver.
>
> Warner
>
>
> : > In message: <102AD3A8-168F-4407-9FA1-86CB2B97A198 at tfeb.org>
> : >             Tim Bradshaw <tfb at tfeb.org> writes:
> : > : On 21 Sep 2007, at 15:58, John Cowan wrote:
> : > :
> : > : >
> : > : > The best available story for the Sun3 code is that Sun doesn't
> : > : > object to non-commercial use (which certainly is not the same
> : > : > as an open source license).
> : > :
> : > : I'm assuming that the source isn't available at all (I wonder if Sun
> : > : still have it?)
> : >
> : > SunOS for the Sun3 machines was derived from BSD 4.2 with a lot of
> : > code from other places.  BSD 4.2 requires an AT&T license because
> : > there is still AT&T code in it.  As such, open sourcing it would be
> : > difficult at best.
> : >
> : > Based on what friends that work at sun tell me, the source can still
> : > be obtained internally if necessary...  I never pressed them for
> : > details on the rather curious way they put it (like I did just now).
> : >
> : > Warner
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Ah well,  when the Novell SCO stuff winds down perhaps the folks from Utah
will OpenSource it. (my second guess is sell it to Sun)
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