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Re: [pups] The Software Tools Virtual Operating System

by SHOPPA＠trailing-edge.com

>I know this is somewhat off topic, but there is a connection. > >I am trying to track down a copy of the distribution of: > The Software Tools Virtual Operating System > >The last known repository of the complete system was apparently USENIX. >They have been unable to find a copy anywhere up to this point, so I'm >asking here as there must be many long time members in this group. > >Does anyone still have a copy of this and could I possibly get it?? >I really need to find a copy for a project I want to work on. Point yourself towards ftp://ftp.trailing-edge.com/pub/rsx11freewarev2/rsx81a/ In the 30703* directories you will find: [307,30] TOOLGEN.CMD, the command file for building the LBL Software Tools Virtual Operating System. The release notes for the VOS are also contained in this UIC. [307,31] Fortran and macro sources for VOS. [307,32] Manual entries for VOS utilities. [307,33] Ratfor source files for VOS utilities. [307,34] Source files for variable-length send/receive driver. [307,35] Source files for virtual aether driver. Tim.

23 years, 8 months

[pups] The Software Tools Virtual Operating System

by Bill Gunshannon

I know this is somewhat off topic, but there is a connection. I am trying to track down a copy of the distribution of: The Software Tools Virtual Operating System The last known repository of the complete system was apparently USENIX. They have been unable to find a copy anywhere up to this point, so I'm asking here as there must be many long time members in this group. Does anyone still have a copy of this and could I possibly get it?? I really need to find a copy for a project I want to work on. Any help would be greatly appreciated. bill -- Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves bill(a)cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton | Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h>

23 years, 8 months

Re: Obtaining Ancient Licenses from Caldera

by Warren Toomey

In article by Jonathan Engdahl: > I sold a PDP-11/23 with 2.9BSD on it, and directed the buyer to the Caldera > page below. The license page is there, but when you click "accept", the link > is broken. Both he and I emailed Caldera about the problem. We'll see what > happens. > > Is there any backup plan for licensing if Caldera doesn't come through? Yes, just go to http://www.tuhs.org/archive_access.html, I've given up on referrals from SCO or Caldera for now. Warren

23 years, 8 months

[pups] Re: Free UNIX licenses

by Warren Toomey

In article by Jonathan Engdahl: > It looks like the SCO free UNIX license page moved: > http://shop.caldera.com/caldera/ancient.html > > I hope Caldera continues the free license policy. Thanks for the heads-up Johnathan. It looks like the license is unchanged, so for now we're ok. But I should contact someone there & see if we can open it up a bit more :) Warren

23 years, 8 months

[PUPS] Change of PUPS Mail-list software

by Warren Toomey

All, I'm thinking of switching from Majordomo to Mailman for the mailing lists run on minnie.tuhs.org. I thought I'd try it out on the PUPS mailing list to start with, because it is so quiet, and also to maybe get some postings going again. Mailman has several advantages: - list archives are created and have a web interface - subscribers can easily change their details - list management can also be done via the web. You can go to http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/pups to use the web interface to change your subscription. If things don't seem to be working, please let me know at my e-mail address of wkt(a)tuhs.org Cheers, Warren

23 years, 9 months

[pups] KXJ11-CA / M7616 doc wanted.

by jkunz＠unixag-kl.fh-kl.de

Hi. I have this nice KXJ11-CA but I have no clue how to use it. I was able to get to the ODT prompt, but nothing else. I need pinouts, jumper descriptions, memory map (where are the EPROMs?), ... How to use that digital IO port? ... My idea is to use it in a my MicroVAX 4000-200 with the VAX as "frontend processor". So I would be able to run NetBSD/vax and perhaps 2.9BSD in the same box. -- tschüß, Jochen Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/

23 years, 9 months

[pups] A 2nd http mirror of the Unix Archive

by Warren Toomey

All, Oleg Safiullin has set up a Unix Archive mirror outside of Australia. You can find it at: http://unix-archive.pdp11.org.ru He is using the same username & password list as www.tuhs.org is. Thanks to Oleg for setting this up. Warren P.S I do have a number of other people interested in setting up other mirrors. When I get back from this week's conference, I'll contact you all. Return-Path: <owner-pups(a)minnie.tuhs.org> Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.tuhs.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f8R5Wfi62530 for pups-liszt; Thu, 27 Sep 2001 15:32:41 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups(a)minnie.tuhs.org) Received: (from wkt@localhost) by minnie.tuhs.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f8R5WbZ62518; Thu, 27 Sep 2001 15:32:37 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from wkt) From: Warren Toomey <wkt(a)minnie.tuhs.org> Message-Id: <200109270532.f8R5WbZ62518(a)minnie.tuhs.org> Subject: [pups] A 2nd http mirror of the Unix Archive To: tuhs(a)tuhs.org, pups(a)tuhs.org Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 15:32:37 +1000 (EST) Reply-To: wkt(a)tuhs.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pups(a)minnie.tuhs.org Precedence: bulk All, Oleg Safiullin has set up a Unix Archive mirror outside of Australia. You can find it at: http://unix-archive.pdp11.org.ru He is using the same username & password list as www.tuhs.org is. Thanks to Oleg for setting this up. Warren P.S I do have a number of other people interested in setting up other mirrors. When I get back from this week's conference, I'll contact you all.

23 years, 9 months

[pups] BSD 2.11 SL/IP and sim2.3d+BB1

by PUP

I know that there must be some setup guides for BSD2.11 still floating around there, but I have not been able to find anything.. Here is what I am trying to do: I noticed that the sim2.3d+BB1 emulator will allow you to connect Unix "devices" to the DL1 lines. I set it to connect the serial port on my Linux box, and connected a IBM 3151 (VT100 like terminal), and it worked great! Taking this a step further, I took the serial port and moved it to my Cisco router (the aux port).. I have been trying to configure SL/IP on it.. I first setup my Linux box to connect to the router via slip so that I can verify my cisco config. I am having trouble on the BSD side.. As far as I can tell it is not routing replys over the sl0 interface.. (Or the emulator is cooking the serial data...) A final test I tried to connect to copies of sim2.3d+BB1 via pty's.. same thing. The good part is when you try to telnet from the router, you can see the socket accept on the BSD side.. The BSD box seems not to reply.. Additionally I saw some stuff on increasing the size of CBLOCK in param.h (my default was 32, I tried 64), which seemed to have no effect. I started SL/IP by running slattach ttyl1 9600 then ifconfig sl0 10.1.1.1 10.1.1.2 up by default as this I can't ping the 10.1.1.1 (my side).. so I added a route route add 10.1.1.1 127.0.0.1 0 I don't know if I have to do this... Oh the image that I'm using is the 2.11_rp_unknown from the archive.. (It has a note that it is patch level 400.) Also the person that maintains BSD 2.11's site is down.. bummer.. Sorry for the rambling! Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.tuhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA96454 for pups-liszt; Thu, 17 May 2001 14:04:16 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au) >From "Steven M. Schultz" <sms(a)moe.2bsd.com> Thu May 17 13:52:31 2001 Received: from moe.2bsd.com (MOE.2BSD.COM [206.139.202.200]) by minnie.tuhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA96450 for <pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au>; Thu, 17 May 2001 14:04:12 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sms(a)moe.2bsd.com) Received: (from sms@localhost) by moe.2bsd.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f4H3qVx16950 for pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au; Wed, 16 May 2001 20:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 20:52:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Steven M. Schultz" <sms(a)moe.2bsd.com> Message-Id: <200105170352.f4H3qVx16950(a)moe.2bsd.com> To: pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Subject: Re: [pups] BSD 2.11 SL/IP and sim2.3d+BB1 Sender: owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Precedence: bulk > From: PUP <jstevep(a)tron.superglobalmegacorp.com> I've taken the liberty of adding <\n> characters - something about 1k character lines bugs me ;) > I know that there must be some setup guides for BSD2.11 still floating > around there, but I have not been able to find anything.. Here is what I /usr/doc/2.10/setup.2.11 bit of a misnomer and it's a long enough story I won't bother anyone with the details. That's the raw troff sources though. If it's the formatted version that is wanted there should be a copy in the 2.11 portion of the PUPS/TUHS section of the archive. It shows up at PDP-11/Distributions/ucb/2.11BSD and there are also complete tarballs and a dump of the root filesystem all at rev level 431. It should be a simple matter of putting the bits on tape/disk (using the makesimtape or similar utility provided with the emulator being used). At that point the normal 2.11 installation process can be followed - there have only been 5 updates since then (432 thru 436) so catching up wouldn't be hard at all. > I noticed that the sim2.3d+BB1 emulator will allow you to connect Unix > "devices" to the DL1 lines. I set it to connect the serial port on my Linux > box, and connected a IBM 3151 (VT100 like terminal), and it worked great! Probably doing 7E1 and just about anything would work with that ;) > Taking this a step further, I took the serial port and moved it to my Cisco > router (the aux port).. I have been trying to configure SL/IP on it.. That'll definitely require a 'raw' or 8bit clean path and I don't know if the sim2.3d does that or not - never tried it. The stock sim2.3d doesn't appear to have extra serial line support - or if it does it isn't obvious. Perhaps that is what the BB1 part is about. > I first setup my Linux box to connect to the router via slip so that I can > verify my cisco config. I am having trouble on the BSD side.. As far as I > can tell it is not routing replys over the sl0 interface.. (Or the emulator > is cooking the serial data...) That's a real possibility. The 'slattach' command on the 11 side will take care of setting all the modes so that an 8bit path is obtained. If the emulator is stripping the parity bit (which wouldn't show up in the normal "hook a terminal up" test) then SL/IP will obviously have problems. You might have better luck with the Begemot emulator P11. No need for SL/IP since P11 has an emulated DEQNA ethernet driver. > A final test I tried to connect to copies of sim2.3d+BB1 via pty's.. same > thing. The good part is when you try to telnet from the router, you can see > the socket accept on the BSD side.. The BSD box seems not to reply.. > Additionally I saw some stuff on increasing the size of CBLOCK in param.h > (my default was 32, I tried 64), which seemed to have no effect. I'd not muck about with CBLOCK - it doesn't really buy much and from the sounds of things aren't getting anywhere near the conditions that comment was aimed at. > I started SL/IP by running > slattach ttyl1 9600 > then > ifconfig sl0 10.1.1.1 10.1.1.2 up That should be all that's necessary > by default as this I can't ping the 10.1.1.1 (my side).. so I added a route > > route add 10.1.1.1 127.0.0.1 0 > I don't know if I have to do this... You shouldn't have to do that because in /etc/netstart, if things are set up right you would have: slattach ttyl1 9600 ifconfig sl0 10.1.1.1 10.1.1.2 up route add $hostname localhost 0 route add default $default 1 So if 'hostname' and 'default' are set at the top of the file all the routing is all set to go. Just make sure that 'ifconfig sl0' happens before 'ifconfig lo0 ...'. Also, by default the C library is compiled to use DNS resolver routines so it will likely be necessary to use a combination of numeric IP addresses and entries in /etc/hosts > Oh the image that I'm using is the 2.11_rp_unknown from the archive.. > (It has a note that it is patch level 400.) That is fairly old, but SL/IP hasn't changed since the system came out eons ago. > Also the person that maintains BSD 2.11's site is down.. bummer.. It has _never_ been down except for a reboot the other day to install another 512MB of memory a week or so ago. With a 1400VA UPS the system can ride out most of the power problems California's having. If the FTP site here is unreachable you might try going to the mirror at FTP.TO.GD-ES.COM - all the updates are in /pub/2.11BSD Steven Schultz sms(a)moe.2bsd.com Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.tuhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA96508 for pups-liszt; Thu, 17 May 2001 14:11:44 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au) >From Warren Toomey <wkt(a)henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> Thu May 17 14:00:06 2001 Received: from henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (henry.cs.adfa.edu.au [131.236.21.158]) by minnie.tuhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA96503 for <pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au>; Thu, 17 May 2001 14:11:41 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from wkt(a)henry.cs.adfa.edu.au) Received: (from wkt@localhost) by henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.11.2/8.9.3) id f4H406m51958; Thu, 17 May 2001 14:00:06 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from wkt) From: Warren Toomey <wkt(a)henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> Message-Id: <200105170400.f4H406m51958(a)henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> Subject: Re: [pups] BSD 2.11 SL/IP and sim2.3d+BB1 In-Reply-To: <200105170352.f4H3qVx16950(a)moe.2bsd.com> from "Steven M. Schultz" at "May 16, 2001 08:52:31 pm" To: "Steven M. Schultz" <sms(a)moe.2bsd.com> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 14:00:06 +1000 (EST) CC: PDP-11 Unix Preservation Society <pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au> Reply-To: wkt(a)tuhs.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Precedence: bulk In article by Steven M. Schultz: >> I noticed that the sim2.3d+BB1 emulator will allow you to connect Unix >> "devices" to the DL1 lines. I set it to connect the serial port on my Linux >> box, and connected a IBM 3151 (VT100 like terminal), and it worked great! > > Probably doing 7E1 and just about anything would work with that ;) > > > Taking this a step further, I took the serial port and moved it to my Cisco > > router (the aux port).. I have been trying to configure SL/IP on it.. > > That'll definitely require a 'raw' or 8bit clean path and I don't know > if the sim2.3d does that or not - never tried it. The stock sim2.3d > doesn't appear to have extra serial line support - or if it does it > isn't obvious. Perhaps that is what the BB1 part is about. I can confirm that sim2.3d is not 8-bit clean on output. I got bitten on this when working on Vtserver, and I tore my hair out for a whole day. 443c449 < if ((temp = sim_putchar (tto_unit.buf & 0177)) != SCPE_OK) return temp; --- > if ((temp = sim_putchar (tto_unit.buf)) != SCPE_OK) return temp; It is 8-bit clean on input. Warren Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.tuhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA97320 for pups-liszt; Thu, 17 May 2001 17:04:28 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au) >From PUP <jstevep(a)tron.superglobalmegacorp.com> Thu May 17 17:37:56 2001 Received: from tron.superglobalmegacorp.com ([12.21.28.170]) by minnie.tuhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA97316 for <pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au>; Thu, 17 May 2001 17:04:24 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jstevep(a)tron.superglobalmegacorp.com) Received: (from jstevep@localhost) by tron.superglobalmegacorp.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f4H7buK16947 for pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au; Thu, 17 May 2001 02:37:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 02:37:56 -0500 (EST) From: PUP <jstevep(a)tron.superglobalmegacorp.com> Message-Id: <200105170737.f4H7buK16947(a)tron.superglobalmegacorp.com> To: pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Subject: Re: [pups] BSD 2.11 SL/IP and sim2.3d+BB1 Sender: owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Precedence: bulk Thanks for the pointer, I found the part you mentioned for the ASCII clean up and removed them from the DL11 and KL11 drivers, and noticed that I need to detect the 0 device so the console is usable =) but the big thing is that I telneted into the VM using slip ok!!!! Thanks again, I didn't know what to look for in the source (I was looking @ the other half in the attach stuff not I/O (doh!)) If you want/need I'll gladly diff mine out... Oh btw Steven, every time I try to ftp the site, I get connection closed.. It 's definatly "up" but I can't get to it.. does your site try to reverse lookup clients? if so, that's the issue.. I don't have reverse entries for dns. Thanks again!

24 years, 1 month

[pups] John Wilson / DBit offline

by Fred N. van Kempen

Hi all, In case you're trying to get a hold of John Wilson, or were going to look at his web site... no go. Due to a fairly serious ISP, uhh, "issue", his machine died on him. I talked to him last night, and he was going to see if he could revive his (co-lo) machine, or would have to install a new one. Cheers, Fred -- Fred N. van Kempen Fred.van.Kempen(a)MicroWalt.NL Microsoft MCSE+I/MCSE/MCSD Compaq ASE/ACT UNIX Systems Programmer Cisco ACRC/CCDA/CCNA/SupportPro InterNetworking en Network Security Consultant MicroWalt Corporation (Netherlands), Korte Heul 95, 1403 ND BUSSUM Phone +31 (35) 6980059 FAX +31 (35) 6980215 http://WWW.MicroWalt.NL/ Dit bericht en eventuele bijlagen is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Openbaarmaking, vermenigvuldiging, verspreiding aan derden is niet toegestaan. Er wordt geen verantwoordelijkheid genomen voor de juiste en volledige overbrenging van de inhoud van dit bericht, noch voor de tijdige ontvangst ervan.

24 years, 1 month

[pups] Change of PUPS list address

by Warren Toomey

All, The machine which hosts the pups mailing list, minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au, is going to change its domain name in mid-July. To help alleviate any problems, I have taken out a separate domain, and have put in aliases to the current minnie address, and will migrate the aliases to the new address when the time comes. So, if possible could you send e-mail to the pups mailing list using the address pups(a)tuhs.org from now on. Thanks, Warren Toomey wkt(a)tuhs.org

24 years, 2 months

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