25 Sep
2019
25 Sep
'19
3:26 p.m.
On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 9:17 AM Arrigo Triulzi <arrigo(a)alchemistowl.org>
wrote:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/177KxOif5oHARyIdZHDq-OO67_GVtMkzIAlD…
Ah, that’s the final version of what we got a preview of?
Yes.
I hope it will be there as well. I quite enjoyed giving the talk, though
the audience was small.
I would love to find that as well... At least one person came up to me
after the talk and told me about a set of Onyx Z8000 System III manuals he
had that we're making arrangements to find a good home (like maybe mine).
Future versions of this talk will likely include a plea for people to
contact me with historic artifacts so I might be able to copy them...
Warner
On 25 Sep 2019, at 17:09, Warner Losh
<imp(a)bsdimp.com> wrote:
I think that links to the talks will be there, but they will be uploaded to
youtube. Most conferences give some instructions to speakers for uploading
talk related materials, but I've not seen anything from EuroBSDcon. Most
likely it is in a spam folder :(
Slides have been published, though maybe not
through the EuroBSDCon
site. I wasn't aware that I could publish them there.
I was under the mistaken impression that recordings of the talks would be
made available on the site - I generally find it rather useful when
conferences have slides, papers and recordings available on the web pages
of past conferences, e.g. Usenix.
I'm told
it will be a small number of weeks before the bsdtv folks that
taped everything can
edit the talks down from the raw footage and post them
to youtube. They have the raw livestream, but a small number of tweaks need
to be made to each talk.
Right, that makes sense. I would like to see the “colour” which goes with
the slides, i.e. all that isn’t written down..
I'll be
writing a followup paper, as well as an article for the FreeBSD
Journal.
There's a number of small technical errors in the talk owing to
two factors: (1) I couldn't see my speaker notes during the talk so I think
I misspoke or neglected to include a clarifying sentence or two that I'd
planned and (2) I found more original material that helped to clarify
timelines (eg: PWB 1.0 was distributed outside of bell labs: it was V6 +
the "50 changes" based, but still retained features like the V6 TTY driver.
This was in 1978, about a year before V7 was released. PWB 2.0 was fully V7
based and included updates to the tools PWB added, exact details TBD). I
did talk a little about the ambiguity between UNIX/TS and PWB/UNIX 3.0 in
the talk, but the details of that need to be ironed out a bit. I hope to go
through more original sources to figure all that out as different people
remember things slightly differently, and sometimes contemporary
documentation or scholarly papers contradicts the remembrance so I need to
sort that out better, as well as where I can run diffs between supposed
sources of things to find as much of the truth around this that I can.
That is wonderful! I have been desperately trying to find the Unix tapes
which made it to the University of Milan “Cybernetics” department back in
the 70s but have failed miserably. Most of the people who were there at the
time are sadly no longer with us and my dad can’t remember who had them.
All that I have left is the photocopied Unix manual with the cover printed
by the department in Italian, an nth copy Lions and then other bits and
pieces. All the rest is gone forever (or, more likely, in some Italian
state warehouse since the bureaucracy necessary to throw anything away, or
donate it, was so daunting it was just stuck somewhere). Unfortunately
there were three physical moves of the department so chances are the
cellars were cleaned out by workers.
Thank you again for the talk!
Arrigo