22 Jan
2023
22 Jan
'23
11:39 p.m.
dc
>>
it prompts with '>>> '
wonder where that came from? First time I've seen it.
Seems to have a certain lack of understanding attached to it.
11:49 p.m.
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023, ron minnich wrote:
dc
I think there was one particular dc clone...guy whose name started with a
G? and his version did that.
Most Linux versions use GNU's which Does The Right Thing®™©.
-uso.
>>
it prompts with '>>> '
wonder where that came from? First time I've seen it.
Seems to have a certain lack of understanding attached to it.
11:50 p.m.
There is a BSDL DC that replaces gnu DC. The >>> is annoying, but gone in
newer versions I believe.
Warner
On Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 4:43 PM ron minnich <rminnich(a)gmail.com> wrote:
dc on linux still behaves properly.
On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 3:39 PM ron minnich <rminnich(a)gmail.com> wrote:
dc
>>
it prompts with '>>> '
wonder where that came from? First time I've seen it.
Seems to have a certain lack of understanding attached to it.
11:57 p.m.
Is this it? https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/bc
This bc also includes an implementation of dc in the
same binary, accessible via a symbolic link, which implements all FreeBSD and GNU
extensions. (If a standalone dc binary is desired, bc can be copied and renamed to dc.)
The ! command is omitted; I believe this poses security concerns and that such
functionality is unnecessary.
On Sun, Jan 22, 2023, at 15:49, Steve Nickolas wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023, ron minnich wrote:
dc
I think there was one particular dc clone...guy whose name started with a
G? and his version did that.
Most Linux versions use GNU's which Does The Right Thing®™©.
-uso. >>
it prompts with '>>> '
wonder where that came from? First time I've seen it.
Seems to have a certain lack of understanding attached to it.
23 Jan
23 Jan
12:07 a.m.
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023, Joseph Holsten wrote:
Is this it?
https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/bc
That's the one. I knew the guy's name started with a G.
How about OpenBSD's, though? That's ISC-licensed (bc.library has
potential issues but you can use NetBSD's
usr/src/external/bsd/bc/libmath.b instead, it serves the same purpose and
doesn't have a Caldera cloud over it).
-uso.
12:15 a.m.
dc -V on MacOS shows 4.0.2. Repo link in the output of dc -V.
The current version is 6.2.2 but it doesn't compile on Ventura.
On Jan 22, 2023, at 3:39 PM, ron minnich
<rminnich(a)gmail.com> wrote:
dc
>>
it prompts with '>>> '
wonder where that came from? First time I've seen it.
Seems to have a certain lack of understanding attached to it.
12:20 a.m.
How do you write a dc that doesn't compile?
The mind reels.
On Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 7:16 PM Bakul Shah <bakul(a)iitbombay.org> wrote:
dc -V on MacOS shows 4.0.2. Repo link in the output of
dc -V.
The current version is 6.2.2 but it doesn't compile on Ventura.
On Jan 22, 2023, at 3:39 PM, ron minnich
<rminnich(a)gmail.com> wrote:
dc
>>
it prompts with '>>> '
wonder where that came from? First time I've seen it.
Seems to have a certain lack of understanding attached to it. 
12:23 a.m.
anything which links to libreadline...
-G
On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 10:22 AM ron minnich <rminnich(a)gmail.com> wrote:
How do you write a dc that doesn't compile?
The mind reels.
On Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 7:16 PM Bakul Shah <bakul(a)iitbombay.org> wrote:
>
> dc -V on MacOS shows 4.0.2. Repo link in the output of dc -V.
> The current version is 6.2.2 but it doesn't compile on Ventura.
>
> > On Jan 22, 2023, at 3:39 PM, ron minnich <rminnich(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > dc
> > >>>
> >
> > it prompts with '>>> '
> >
> > wonder where that came from? First time I've seen it.
> >
> > Seems to have a certain lack of understanding attached to it.
>
12:26 a.m.
Supposedly https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/tree/contrib/bc is kept up to date, so I’d suspect
the issue lies on the macOS side.
On Sun, Jan 22, 2023, at 16:20, ron minnich wrote:
How do you write a dc that doesn't compile?
The mind reels.
On Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 7:16 PM Bakul Shah <bakul(a)iitbombay.org> wrote:
> dc -V on MacOS shows 4.0.2. Repo link in the output of dc -V.
> The current version is 6.2.2 but it doesn't compile on Ventura.
>
> > On Jan 22, 2023, at 3:39 PM, ron minnich <rminnich(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > dc
> > >>>
> >
> > it prompts with '>>> '
> >
> > wonder where that came from? First time I've seen it.
> >
> > Seems to have a certain lack of understanding attached to it.
>
12:39 a.m.
Probably because MacOS moved things around or is intent on breaking things?
I didn't investigate. It compiles fine on FreeBSD.
On Jan 22, 2023, at 4:20 PM, ron minnich
<rminnich(a)gmail.com> wrote:
How do you write a dc that doesn't compile?
The mind reels.
On Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 7:16 PM Bakul Shah <bakul(a)iitbombay.org
<mailto:bakul@iitbombay.org>> wrote:
> dc -V on MacOS shows 4.0.2. Repo link in the output of dc -V.
> The current version is 6.2.2 but it doesn't compile on Ventura.
>
> > On Jan 22, 2023, at 3:39 PM, ron minnich <rminnich(a)gmail.com
<mailto:rminnich@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > dc
> > >>>
> >
> > it prompts with '>>> '
> >
> > wonder where that came from? First time I've seen it.
> >
> > Seems to have a certain lack of understanding attached to it.
>
1:32 a.m.
Pretty much everything in the dc man page on my mac raises my hackles. Not
limited to changing behavior when you're on a TTY. (Also: NO ONE HAS BEEN
ON A TTY FOR DECADES!)
I am such an old grump.
-rob
On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 11:41 AM Bakul Shah <bakul(a)iitbombay.org> wrote:
Probably because MacOS moved things around or is
intent on breaking things?
I didn't investigate. It compiles fine on FreeBSD.
On Jan 22, 2023, at 4:20 PM, ron minnich <rminnich(a)gmail.com> wrote:
How do you write a dc that doesn't compile?
The mind reels.
On Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 7:16 PM Bakul Shah <bakul(a)iitbombay.org> wrote:
dc -V on MacOS shows 4.0.2. Repo link in the
output of dc -V.
The current version is 6.2.2 but it doesn't compile on Ventura.
On Jan 22, 2023, at 3:39 PM, ron minnich
<rminnich(a)gmail.com> wrote:
dc
>>
it prompts with '>>> '
wonder where that came from? First time I've seen it.
Seems to have a certain lack of understanding attached to it. 
3:07 a.m.
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023, Steve Nickolas wrote:
I think there was one particular dc clone...guy whose
name started with
a G? and his version did that.
On my ancient MacBook Pro (13-inch, mid 2010, High Sierra 10.13.6):
mackie:~ dave$ dc
(^D)
mackie:~ dave$ dc -V
dc (GNU bc 1.06) 1.3
On my ancient FreeBSD server:
aneurin% dc
(^D)
aneurin% dc -V
dc (BSD bc) 1.3-FreeBSD
Nil prompt in both cases.
Most Linux versions use GNU's which Does The
Right Thing®™©.
Perhaps so, but I try to avoid using Penguin/OS and GNU... I don't like
its licence conditions ("free" it ain't), and I would rather write my own
libraries than be constrained by Stallman's conditions.
-- Dave
3:11 a.m.
On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 02:07:14PM +1100, Dave Horsfall wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023, Steve Nickolas wrote:
I know this is about dc (which I think is under bc or is it the other way
around?) but to pick on GNU:
slovax ~ 'bc'
bc 1.06.95
Copyright 1991-1994, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2004, 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
For details type `warranty'.
slovax ~ alias bc
alias bc='bc -ql'
because, well, the same reason I run vi in terse mode.
I think there was one particular dc clone...guy
whose name started with
a G? and his version did that.
On my ancient MacBook Pro (13-inch, mid 2010, High Sierra 10.13.6):
mackie:~ dave$ dc
(^D)
mackie:~ dave$ dc -V
dc (GNU bc 1.06) 1.3
On my ancient FreeBSD server:
aneurin% dc
(^D)
aneurin% dc -V
dc (BSD bc) 1.3-FreeBSD
Nil prompt in both cases.
> Most Linux versions use GNU's which Does The Right Thing???????.
3:32 a.m.
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023, Dave Horsfall wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023, Steve Nickolas wrote:
I've dealt with fanboys telling me how to do GPL on my own stuff, and it
left a sore taste in my mouth. I don't care about the stuff I *use*, but
it did leave me very negative about the GPL itself, and if it seems that
some of the OS-building stuff I've been talking about here and elsewhere
has anything to do with a grudge against GNU,...well...it does.
Still, GNU does seem to have more respect for precedent than a lot of
johnny-come-lately coders trying to reimplement stuff themselves.
-uso.
I think there was one particular dc clone...guy
whose name started with
a G? and his version did that.
On my ancient MacBook Pro (13-inch, mid 2010, High Sierra 10.13.6):
mackie:~ dave$ dc
(^D)
mackie:~ dave$ dc -V
dc (GNU bc 1.06) 1.3
On my ancient FreeBSD server:
aneurin% dc
(^D)
aneurin% dc -V
dc (BSD bc) 1.3-FreeBSD
Nil prompt in both cases.
Most Linux versions use GNU's which Does The
Right Thing®™©.
Perhaps so, but I try to avoid using Penguin/OS and GNU... I don't like
its licence conditions ("free" it ain't), and I would rather write my
own
libraries than be constrained by Stallman's conditions.
-- Dave
3:38 a.m.
ggm@GGM-802602 ~ % uname && dc --version |egrep git\|dc
Darwin
dc 4.0.2
Report bugs at: https://git.yzena.com/gavin/bc
ggm@GGM-802602 ~ %
finley% uname && dc --version |egrep git\|dc
FreeBSD
dc 5.2.2
Report bugs at: https://git.yzena.com/gavin/bc
finley%
On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 1:33 PM Steve Nickolas <usotsuki(a)buric.co> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023, Dave Horsfall wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023, Steve Nickolas wrote:
I've dealt with fanboys telling me how to do GPL on my own stuff, and it
left a sore taste in my mouth. I don't care about the stuff I *use*, but
it did leave me very negative about the GPL itself, and if it seems that
some of the OS-building stuff I've been talking about here and elsewhere
has anything to do with a grudge against GNU,...well...it does.
Still, GNU does seem to have more respect for precedent than a lot of
johnny-come-lately coders trying to reimplement stuff themselves.
-uso. I think there was one particular dc clone...guy
whose name started with
a G? and his version did that.
On my ancient MacBook Pro (13-inch, mid 2010, High Sierra 10.13.6):
mackie:~ dave$ dc
(^D)
mackie:~ dave$ dc -V
dc (GNU bc 1.06) 1.3
On my ancient FreeBSD server:
aneurin% dc
(^D)
aneurin% dc -V
dc (BSD bc) 1.3-FreeBSD
Nil prompt in both cases.
Most Linux versions use GNU's which Does The
Right Thing®™©.
Perhaps so, but I try to avoid using Penguin/OS and GNU... I don't like
its licence conditions ("free" it ain't), and I would rather write my own
libraries than be constrained by Stallman's conditions.
-- Dave
3:39 a.m.
I should add both were /usr/bin/dc and I do NOT install into system
owned paths on these hosts. (for me Homebrew installs in /opt and
FreeBSD pkg installs in /usr/local)
-G
On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 1:38 PM George Michaelson <ggm(a)algebras.org> wrote:
ggm@GGM-802602 ~ % uname && dc --version |egrep git\|dc
Darwin
dc 4.0.2
Report bugs at: https://git.yzena.com/gavin/bc
ggm@GGM-802602 ~ %
finley% uname && dc --version |egrep git\|dc
FreeBSD
dc 5.2.2
Report bugs at: https://git.yzena.com/gavin/bc
finley%
On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 1:33 PM Steve Nickolas <usotsuki(a)buric.co> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 23 Jan 2023, Dave Horsfall wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 22 Jan 2023, Steve Nickolas wrote:
> >
> >> I think there was one particular dc clone...guy whose name started with
> >> a G? and his version did that.
> >
> > On my ancient MacBook Pro (13-inch, mid 2010, High Sierra 10.13.6):
> >
> > mackie:~ dave$ dc
> > (^D)
> > mackie:~ dave$ dc -V
> > dc (GNU bc 1.06) 1.3
> >
> > On my ancient FreeBSD server:
> >
> > aneurin% dc
> > (^D)
> > aneurin% dc -V
> > dc (BSD bc) 1.3-FreeBSD
> >
> > Nil prompt in both cases.
> >
> >> Most Linux versions use GNU's which Does The Right Thing®™©.
> >
> > Perhaps so, but I try to avoid using Penguin/OS and GNU... I don't like
> > its licence conditions ("free" it ain't), and I would rather
write my own
> > libraries than be constrained by Stallman's conditions.
> >
> > -- Dave
>
> I've dealt with fanboys telling me how to do GPL on my own stuff, and it
> left a sore taste in my mouth. I don't care about the stuff I *use*, but
> it did leave me very negative about the GPL itself, and if it seems that
> some of the OS-building stuff I've been talking about here and elsewhere
> has anything to do with a grudge against GNU,...well...it does.
>
> Still, GNU does seem to have more respect for precedent than a lot of
> johnny-come-lately coders trying to reimplement stuff themselves.
>
> -uso.
3:40 a.m.
I should also also add, Mac has >>> as Rob noted. FreeBSD doesn't
-G
On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 1:39 PM George Michaelson <ggm(a)algebras.org> wrote:
I should add both were /usr/bin/dc and I do NOT install into system
owned paths on these hosts. (for me Homebrew installs in /opt and
FreeBSD pkg installs in /usr/local)
-G
On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 1:38 PM George Michaelson <ggm(a)algebras.org> wrote:
>
> ggm@GGM-802602 ~ % uname && dc --version |egrep git\|dc
> Darwin
> dc 4.0.2
> Report bugs at: https://git.yzena.com/gavin/bc
> ggm@GGM-802602 ~ %
>
> finley% uname && dc --version |egrep git\|dc
> FreeBSD
> dc 5.2.2
> Report bugs at: https://git.yzena.com/gavin/bc
> finley%
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 1:33 PM Steve Nickolas <usotsuki(a)buric.co> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 23 Jan 2023, Dave Horsfall wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, 22 Jan 2023, Steve Nickolas wrote:
> > >
> > >> I think there was one particular dc clone...guy whose name started
with
> > >> a G? and his version did that.
> > >
> > > On my ancient MacBook Pro (13-inch, mid 2010, High Sierra 10.13.6):
> > >
> > > mackie:~ dave$ dc
> > > (^D)
> > > mackie:~ dave$ dc -V
> > > dc (GNU bc 1.06) 1.3
> > >
> > > On my ancient FreeBSD server:
> > >
> > > aneurin% dc
> > > (^D)
> > > aneurin% dc -V
> > > dc (BSD bc) 1.3-FreeBSD
> > >
> > > Nil prompt in both cases.
> > >
> > >> Most Linux versions use GNU's which Does The Right Thing®™©.
> > >
> > > Perhaps so, but I try to avoid using Penguin/OS and GNU... I don't
like
> > > its licence conditions ("free" it ain't), and I would
rather write my own
> > > libraries than be constrained by Stallman's conditions.
> > >
> > > -- Dave
> >
> > I've dealt with fanboys telling me how to do GPL on my own stuff, and it
> > left a sore taste in my mouth. I don't care about the stuff I *use*, but
> > it did leave me very negative about the GPL itself, and if it seems that
> > some of the OS-building stuff I've been talking about here and elsewhere
> > has anything to do with a grudge against GNU,...well...it does.
> >
> > Still, GNU does seem to have more respect for precedent than a lot of
> > johnny-come-lately coders trying to reimplement stuff themselves.
> >
> > -uso.
1:43 p.m.
On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 10:11 PM Larry McVoy <lm(a)mcvoy.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 02:07:14PM +1100, Dave
Horsfall wrote:
The other way around. `bc` is a little interpreter that accepts infix
notation and has a fairly complete language built into it that
generates `dc` and delegates to that to do the actual mathematics.
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023, Steve Nickolas wrote:
I know this is about dc (which I think is under bc or is it the other way
around?) I think there was one particular dc clone...guy
whose name started with
a G? and his version did that.
On my ancient MacBook Pro (13-inch, mid 2010, High Sierra 10.13.6):
mackie:~ dave$ dc
(^D)
mackie:~ dave$ dc -V
dc (GNU bc 1.06) 1.3
On my ancient FreeBSD server:
aneurin% dc
(^D)
aneurin% dc -V
dc (BSD bc) 1.3-FreeBSD
Nil prompt in both cases.
> Most Linux versions use GNU's which Does The Right Thing???????. but to pick on GNU:
slovax ~ 'bc'
bc 1.06.95
Copyright 1991-1994, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2004, 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
For details type `warranty'.
slovax ~ alias bc
alias bc='bc -ql'
because, well, the same reason I run vi in terse mode.
Agreed. The copyright banner every time I run `bc` is excruciating.
The `-l` argument came up not too long ago elsewhere; someone asked
why `bc -l` is not the default. For those that don't know, `bc -l`
loads a library of math functions (sine/cosine, arctan, and a couple
of transcendentals) and sets the scale to 20 decimal points. It's very
useful, but I suspect the reason this wasn't the default is that
loading that library cost RAM and real cycles on a PDP-11 and for most
simple uses that wasn't necessary.
- Dan C.
1:59 p.m.
Back in the day (mid 70s), Brian Kernighan and others from MH used to come
down to udel and talk about unix. CA 1976, udel was an early licensee, or
so we were told.
One of the funniest talks Brian gave concerned looking up words in a
dictionary, said words being all combinations of words you can spell from
looking at a desk calculator upside down. It was a Thing in the 70s, along
with disco balls I guess.
Anyway, he showed what you got when you started up the hopelessly
cumbersome look-up-a-word-at-a-time-in-webster's program that attempted to
be interactive.
"When you start it, it prints out its name and its version -- like we care
-- " -- at the words "like we care", the room just exploded in laughter.
That program was the perfect foil.
Every time I see this kind of ">>>" output from reimplementations of
programs such as dc, my only reaction is "like we care" :-)
On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 5:44 AM Dan Cross <crossd(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 10:11 PM Larry McVoy
<lm(a)mcvoy.com> wrote:
I know this is about dc (which I think is under bc or is it the other way
around?)
The other way around. `bc` is a little interpreter that accepts infix
notation and has a fairly complete language built into it that
generates `dc` and delegates to that to do the actual mathematics.
On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 02:07:14PM +1100, Dave
Horsfall wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jan 2023, Steve Nickolas wrote:
>
> > I think there was one particular dc clone...guy whose name started
with
a G? and his version did that.
On my ancient MacBook Pro (13-inch, mid 2010, High Sierra 10.13.6):
mackie:~ dave$ dc
(^D)
mackie:~ dave$ dc -V
dc (GNU bc 1.06) 1.3
On my ancient FreeBSD server:
aneurin% dc
(^D)
aneurin% dc -V
dc (BSD bc) 1.3-FreeBSD
Nil prompt in both cases.
> Most Linux versions use GNU's which Does The Right Thing???????. but to pick on GNU:
slovax ~ 'bc'
bc 1.06.95
Copyright 1991-1994, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2004, 2006 Free Software
Foundation, Inc.
This is free software with ABSOLUTELY NO
WARRANTY.
For details type `warranty'.
slovax ~ alias bc
alias bc='bc -ql'
because, well, the same reason I run vi in terse mode.
Agreed. The copyright banner every time I run `bc` is excruciating.
The `-l` argument came up not too long ago elsewhere; someone asked
why `bc -l` is not the default. For those that don't know, `bc -l`
loads a library of math functions (sine/cosine, arctan, and a couple
of transcendentals) and sets the scale to 20 decimal points. It's very
useful, but I suspect the reason this wasn't the default is that
loading that library cost RAM and real cycles on a PDP-11 and for most
simple uses that wasn't necessary.
- Dan C.
2:15 p.m.
On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 10:41 PM George Michaelson <ggm(a)algebras.org> wrote:
I should also also add, Mac has >>> as Rob
noted. FreeBSD doesn't
Hmm, interesting. I wonder what version of macOS you both are running?
My old trashcan Mac (soon to be replaced!) is running the
next-to-most-recent version and doesn't have the `>>> ` prompt. My
laptop, running the latest (Ventura?) does.
I don't think I blame Apple for this, but rather something upstream of them.
- Dan C.
9:08 p.m.
On Mon, Jan 23, 2023, at 06:15, Dan Cross wrote:
On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 10:41 PM George Michaelson
<ggm(a)algebras.org> wrote:
Per https://opensource.apple.com/releases/, they switched from
macOS Monterey 12 with GNU bc 1.06
https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/bc/tree/bc-21/bc
to macOS 13 with GH bc 4.0.2 https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/bc/tree/bc-26/bc
I suspect this is similar to the replacement of bash with zsh for GPL avoidance.
Interesting timeline though, https://git.yzena.com/gavin/bc/src/tag/4.0.2 was released in
2021-05-01, https://git.yzena.com/gavin/bc/src/tag/5.0.0 in 2021-08-08.
I should also also add, Mac has >>> as
Rob noted. FreeBSD doesn't
Hmm, interesting. I wonder what version of macOS you both are running?
My old trashcan Mac (soon to be replaced!) is running the
next-to-most-recent version and doesn't have the `>>> ` prompt. My
laptop, running the latest (Ventura?) does.
I don't think I blame Apple for this, but rather something upstream of them. 
24 Jan
24 Jan
12:59 a.m.
I was hoping for a better easter egg. I dunno about y'all but when I see
">>>" .... my mind goes a certain place. Alas, no.
adam@m1-wired:~/git/phalanx/services/nublado$ dc
>> boot dqa0
Parse error: bad character 't'
<stdin>:1
On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 2:09 PM Joseph Holsten <joseph(a)josephholsten.com>
wrote:
On Mon, Jan 23, 2023, at 06:15, Dan Cross wrote:
them.
Per https://opensource.apple.com/releases/, they switched from
macOS Monterey 12 with GNU bc 1.06
https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/bc/tree/bc-21/bc
to macOS 13 with GH bc 4.0.2
https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/bc/tree/bc-26/bc
I suspect this is similar to the replacement of bash with zsh for GPL
avoidance.
Interesting timeline though, https://git.yzena.com/gavin/bc/src/tag/4.0.2
was released in 2021-05-01, https://git.yzena.com/gavin/bc/src/tag/5.0.0
in 2021-08-08.
On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 10:41 PM George
Michaelson <ggm(a)algebras.org>
wrote:
I should
also also add, Mac has >>> as Rob noted. FreeBSD doesn't
Hmm, interesting. I wonder what version of macOS you both are running?
My old trashcan Mac (soon to be replaced!) is running the
next-to-most-recent version and doesn't have the `>>> ` prompt. My
laptop, running the latest (Ventura?) does.
I don't think I blame Apple for this, but rather something upstream of
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