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by wkt＠csadfa.cs.adfa.oz.au

----- Forwarded message from Don Kabuss ----- Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:22:36 -0600 From: kabussdr(a)SLUVCA.SLU.EDU (Don Kabuss) Subject: PDP-11 To: wkt(a)cs.adfa.oz.au Hello Warren, My name is Don. I visited your webpage today about the "PDP-11 UNIX Preservation Society". Although I'm not inclined to participate, I am however the proud owner of a DEC PDP-11/04. It is complete except for a dumb terminal/ keyboard. It is mounted in two 6 1/2 foot tall steel racks it includes a dual 8" floppy drives with unopened boxes of new 8" disks, one 12" cartridge removable hard drive with 6 cartridges, one 12" reel to reel mass storage tape drive, power supply, supportive hardware and all cabling. Also there is an 18" medium speed drum printer in a sound proof encloser. No it's not for sale. However, I would like to give it away. Obviously it is very heavy and there is no way I could ship it. I would like to know if there is a member of this Society somewhere in the mid-west ( close to St. Louis, Missouri,USA ) that might be interested in having it just for coming to get it? The unit was fully functional when I removed the dumb terminal to use in another application, so it's not just "junk". This unit is mine and not property of the University that I'm affiliated with. I hope this may serve a common interest. Thanks Don. ----- End of forwarded message from Don Kabuss -----

28 years, 7 months

Weird TS05 gotcha

by Tom I Helbekkmo

I just wanted to share an interesting experience that might save someone else some time if the occasion should arise... I've got a Q4 cabinet with two BA23s in the middle, an RA81 below them and a TS05 tape station on top. It's had a KA630 (a MicroVAX II, that is) CPU running VAX/VMS, Ultrix and 4.3BSD-Reno before, and the TS05 has always behaved perfectly. Just recently, I reconfigured this box with a MicroPDP-11/73 (a great little system: two RD54s, twin RX50s, TK50 and TS05, DELQA, DHQ11 and the RA81), and was dismayed to find that my trusty old 9 track tape station no longer worked! After several, unsuccessful attempts to get some (too) old diagnostic software to work, I put the KA630 back in, and ran MDM, the MicroVAX Diagnostic Monitor. The tape station checked out perfectly. Back in went the 11/73 -- sure enough, it didn't work. Experimenting showed that I could fsf, bsf rewind and stat the tape station with mt all I wanted, but I couldn't read nor write. The controller always gave an illegal address error, which the manual says is what happens when you use it in a 22 bit qbus while it's configured for 18 bit operation. Of course, that couldn't be for real, right? I mean, the KA630 is a 22 bit system, and it worked on that with several operating systems! Still, it doesn't hurt to check, so I pulled the controller. Yup, it was set to 18 bit mode. Flipped it to 22, turned on buffering at the same time -- and I now have a fast, dependable 1600bpi 9 track again! If anyone can explain how this thing worked in the first place, I'd appreciate it! (Oh, and if anyone has some hints for this youngster about the proper care and feeding of my TS05 as the years go by, that would come in very handy as well!) (Heck, while I'm asking all this, an RK05 with qbus controller and a few packs would be great, too, and would go real well with this old /23 I've got sitting here!) -tih -- Popularity is the hallmark of mediocrity. --Niles Crane, "Frasier"

28 years, 7 months

Simulator 2.2d release with demonstration software (fwd)

by wkt＠csadfa.cs.adfa.oz.au

[You must read this! Warren] ----- Forwarded message from Bob Supnik ----- From: Bob Supnik <bob.supnik(a)ljo.dec.com> Subject: Simulator 2.2d release with demonstration software Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 19:56:40 -0500 This notice is being posted today in relevant Usenet conferences. Thanks for your help in reaching a major milestone! Computer History Simulators V2.2d: Release Notes V2.2d is a major release of the simulators for the Computer History project. It includes simulators for: - Data General Nova - Digital Equipment Corporation PDP-8 - Digital Equipment Corporation PDP-11 - Digital Equipment Corporation 18b PDP's (PDP-4, PDP-7, PDP-9, PDP-15) - IBM 1401 These simulators are freeware. They are intended for personal or educational use and are provided on an as-is basis. Support is not available, and commercial use is prohibited. See the documentation for debug status for each simulator. This release also includes demonstration software for the PDP-8, PDP-11, and Nova: - RDOS V7.5 for the Nova - OS/8 for the PDP-8 - UNIX V5, V6, and V7 for the PDP-11 The demonstration software is provided for personal, non-commercial use, under license from its current owners (Data General for RDOS, Digital Equipment Corporation for OS/8, and the Santa Cruz Operation for UNIX). Please be sure to read the license agreements before using or distributing the demonstration software. A copy of the appropriate license agreement(s) must be included with any copy of the demonstration software. I gratefully acknowledge the generous help and support of Data General Corporation, Digital Equipment Corporation, and the Santa Cruz Organization in making the demonstration software and supporting license agreements available. The simulator sources and documentation are contained in a compressed tar archive on the public FTP server ftp.digital.com: /pub/DEC/sim/sources/sim_2.2d.tar.Z The simulators have been tested under Digital UNIX, VAX VMS, Alpha VMS, and Intel Linux. A port to Windows 95/Windows NT is underway. Porting to other little-endian UNIX systems is straightforward, but porting to big-endian systems is not: data representations are endian dependent. The demonstration software and licenses are contained in multiple compressed tar archives on the public FTP server ftp.digital.com: /pub/DEC/sim/software/rdosswre.tar.Z - RDOS /pub/DEC/sim/software/os8swre.tar.Z - OS/8 /pub/DEC/sim/software/uv5swre.tar.Z - UNIX V5 /pub/DEC/sim/software/uv6swre.tar.Z - UNIX V6 /pub/DEC/sim/software/uv7swre.tar.Z - UNIX V7 (Very) cursory instructions for using the demonstration software are included in the simulator documentation. The simulator project includes many contributions. For a more detailed description of the simulator itself, and the many people who helped with it, please see the (forthcoming) December 96 issue of the Digital Technical Journal, which has an article on "Restoring Old Computers" by Max Burnet and Bob Supnik. YOU can contribute to the computer history project! The simulator is an open-ended framework, and contributions are welcome, such as: - further debuging of the existing simulators - additional peripherals for existing simulators - new software images for existing simulators - new simulators - terminal emulation routines for Windows 95/Windows NT - ports to other operating environments Please send your contributions to bob.supnik(a)ljo.dec.com. ----- End of forwarded message from Bob Supnik ----- >From Bob Supnik <bob.supnik(a)ljo.dec.com> Tue Dec 3 10:56:40 1996 Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.6.13/8.3) with SMTP id FAA19177; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 05:12:21 +1100 Received: from <hub-n.franken.de> by rachael.franken.de with cbsmtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0vVLcd-000oLsC; Wed, 4 Dec 96 19:00 MET Received: from mbsks.UUCP by hub-n.franken.de with UUCP (Smail3.1.28.1 #12) id m0vVL2G-000BzTC; Wed, 4 Dec 96 18:23 WET Received: by mbsks.franken.de (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0vVKxM-000NS0C; Wed, 4 Dec 96 18:18 MET Message-Id: <m0vVKxM-000NS0C(a)mbsks.franken.de> From: m(a)mbsks.franken.de (Matthias Bruestle) Subject: Unix onto my new PDP-11 To: oldunix(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (oldunix) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:17:59 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mahlzeit I have here a PDP-11 which was used in a X-ray-"defractometer". There was no Boot-disks or documentation. Hardware: 3HE-19"-case (with a label VAXstation 3200) with an on/off-switch and 6 buttons. 5,25"-FDD 3,5"-HDD (probably ST-506-type) Fujitsu Model M2227D2 Type B03B-4815-B104A#B On the side to the disk/floppy there are unused connectors: Fixed Disk 0 (2 con.) Fixed Disk 1 (2 con.) Removable Disk 1&2 (1 con.) It has 3 modules: quad-size from Mentec with 4 connectors (serial ports) quad-size from MDB with 4 unused connectors dual-size from Dilog (connected to disk and floppy) Software: It is installed RT-11FB V5.04D. The output from resorc/a is: ------------------------------------------------------------- RT-11FB (S) V05.04 D Booted from DU0:RT11FB USR is set SWAP EXIT is set SWAP KMON is set NOIND TT is set QUIET ERROR is set ERROR SL is set OFF EDIT is set EDIT KMON nesting depth is 3 PDP 11/73A Processor 512KB of memory Floating Point Microcode Extended Instruction Set (EIS) Memory Management Unit Cache Memory 50 Cycle System Clock Memory parity support FPU support Device Status CSR Vector(s) ------ ------ --- --------- SL Installed 000000 000 FW Not installed 177170 264 LD 131520 000000 000 DY Not installed 177170 264 VM 132472 177572 250 SP Installed 000000 110 XL Installed 176500 300 304 DL Not installed 174400 160 DU Resident 172150 154 LS Installed 176510 310 314 NL Installed 000000 000 TT (Resident) = LP DU (Resident) DU0 = SY MQ (Resident) LD (Loaded) LD0 = DK SL VM (Loaded) SP XL LS NL 5 free slots Job Name Console Level State Low High Impure --- ---- ------- ----- ----- --- ---- ------ 0 RESORC 0 0 Run 000000 131510 134576 No multi-terminal support Address Module Words ------- ------ ----- 160000 IOPAGE 4096. 155636 DU 561. 133220 RMON 4743. 132464 VM 174. 131512 LD 245. 001000 ..BG.. 22693. LD0 is DU0:USER.DSK[50068.] = DK LD4 is DU0:USER.DSK[50068.] LD7 is DU0:PW.DSK[3000.] ------------------------------------------------------------- I got somehow a M70>-Prompt (after a @-Prompt) and booted it with DU<Return>. Can I make somehow a bootable floppy-backup? Is it supported by V7 or another UNIX? How big is the harddisk? What device/size is the floppy? DK? Is it possible to read/write these floppies with a PC? Is it possible to make UNIX-boot/install-floppies with an emulator and install with the UNIX on this PDP-11? What did I forget to ask? Thanks endergone Zwiebeltuete -- insanity inside >From "Robert Armstrong" <rarmstro(a)telesensory.com> Tue Dec 10 09:40:01 1996 Received: from dolphin (dolphin.cs.adfa.oz.au [131.236.21.5]) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.6.13/8.3) with SMTP id JAA00108; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 09:01:12 +1100 Received: by dolphin (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA09361; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 08:59:56 +1100 Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp7.netcom.com) by csadfa.cs.adfa.oz.au (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA20100; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 11:15:54 +1100 Received: from telesens.UUCP by netcomsv.netcom.com with UUCP (8.6.12/SMI-4.1) id QAA19916; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 16:06:06 -0800 Received: by telesensory.com (UUPC/extended 1.12r) for wkt(a)cs.adfa.oz.au; Mon, 09 Dec 1996 15:40:01 -0800 Message-Id: <32aca351.telesens(a)telesensory.com> Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 15:40:01 -0800 From: "Robert Armstrong" <rarmstro(a)telesensory.com> To: wkt(a)csadfa.cs.adfa.oz.au Subject: PUPS Membership Content-Type: text Sender: wkt(a)cs.adfa.oz.au Microsoft Mail v3.0 (MAPI 1.0 Transport) IPM.Microsoft Mail.Note From: Armstrong, Robert To: 'wkt(a)cs.adfa.oz.au' Subject: PUPS Membership Date: 1996-12-09 15:36 Priority: 3 Message ID: C28C0656D851D0119D8400A02450680C Conversation ID: PUPS Membership ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Warren, I have a Micro-PDP 11/73 running 2_11BSD now, and a running 11/23+ system that I'd like to find a Unix for (currently it's running RT). The 11/23 lacks I&D space and therefore is unable to run 2_11BSD, and also it's severely handicapped because its largest disk a RL02. I also have a several other DEC non-Unix systems including a 11/730, a PDP-8/A, and too many VAXstation-2000s and 3100s to count. All run perfectly except the -8, which is my current project. I have a some UNIBUS and QBUS spares, and even a few OMNIBUS parts, and I'm always willing to trade with other collectors. I'm afraid I know very little about Unix, but I do have some experience with DEC hardware and would be happy to try and help out in this area. Please do not reply to this account - my home email address is bob(a)poco-adagio.santa-clara.ca.us Thanks, Bob Armstrong

28 years, 8 months

Results of PDP UNIX Source Questionnaire

by wkt＠csadfa.cs.adfa.oz.au

All, The results of my PDP-11 UNIX source license quiz so far are available on the PUPS web page, http://minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au/PUPS/ If you haven't filled out the questionnnaire, please do so, as it gives me more ammunition to convince SCO to make licenses available. Get your friends, family & household pets to fill it out too :-) Most of the results were as I expected, although less people were happy with the single-user idea that I thought would be. Cheers, Warren

28 years, 9 months

PDP Unix Archive Down...

by wkt＠csadfa.cs.adfa.oz.au

All, I accidentally shut down the PDP Unix ftp archive on henry.cs.adfa.oz.au yesterday, as it's my desktop PC and I temporarily forgot about its other uses. It should be back on again at 0000 GMT Monday. I've also got a new Pentium to replace the 486 which is henry, and I will cut over to the new machine sometime in the next two weeks, so if you are having any troubles ftp'ing stuff from this machine, please let me know. Cheers, Warren

28 years, 11 months

UNIX for my 11/34A

by m＠mbsks.franken.de

Mahlzeit OK. Now I have a RL01 image, which boots at least on the emu with the original rl1unix kernel. # mkfs /dev/rl1 9000 # dd if=/usr/mdec/rluboot of=/dev/rl1 count=1 # mount /dev/rl1 /mnt # df # rm -rf /usr/dicts /usr/src /usr/games /rkunix /usr/spool/uucppublic/ansi* # tar cf - .profile bin boot etc lib tmp usr | (cd mnt; tar xf -) # cp /rl1unix /mnt/unix # mkdir /mnt/mnt # mkdir /mnt/dev # cp /dev/makefile /mnt/dev # cd /mnt/dev # make # make rl # ln rl0 swap # cd /usr/sys/conf # cp rl1conf conf conf: remove last line (tm) m.h: uncomment "#define _1134" makefile: M = smch copied pk.p, stat.h and tty.h from other V7 source to /usr/sys/h # make unix # cp unix /mnt/nunix The selfmade kernel nunix doesn't boot. Did I something wrong? Should I adjust also other options in m.h or param.h to get better performance with 128kByte (not kWord) RAM? Thanks endergone Zwiebeltuete -- insanity inside

28 years, 11 months

Re: UNIX for my 11/34A

by pnt103＠ugrad.cs.york.ac.uk

My V7 has RL drivers, and AFAIR they're on my distribution tape, which has a 1980 date sticker on it (I think; it's not to hand). My 11/23 only has RL02s on it, and it was running V7 fine this morning :-) Pete

28 years, 11 months

Re: UNIX for my 11/34A

by m＠mbsks.franken.de

Mahlzeit > V7 _initially_ did *not* have RL02 support. When we got our first V7 > tape in 1979 a RL02 driver was written locally in ~79 or 80. So > unless someone added the RL0? support to V7 and submitted the updated > images to the archives it's doubtful RL devices can be used with V7. The V7 are RL02 images and include the RL drivers. > > One thing to note, the RL02 kernel comes with swap at the end of the > > RL02. You will need to rebuild a kernel so that the location and size of the > Quite right. The 'swaplo' global must agree with the partition table > wired into the driver or the system will end up swapping over top of > the root filesystem. *ick* ;) rl1conf: rl root rl 0 swap rl 0 swplo 9000 nswap 1240 tm I assume that means that the filesystem ist 9000 block long and the swap 1240 blocks. (-> mkfs /dev/rl1 9000) Until now I have the RL02 cleaned up, so it fits on a RL01, and made a filesystem on the RL01. Now I'm fighting with the emu. Mahlzeit endergone Zwiebeltuete -- insanity inside

28 years, 11 months

UNIX for my 11/34A

by m＠mbsks.franken.de

Mahlzeit My name is Matthias Bruestle and I'm new on this mailing list. I'm collecting old computers and have until now 34. I have a 11/34A with 128kB RAM, DL11-W and 2 RL01. I want to install UNIX on her. Because there are no RL01 disk images which I can use directly, I want to prepare one with a PDP-11 emulator. I got V6 to boot with the Supnik emulator, but noticed than that V6 has no support for RL01 drives. Does someone have RL01 drivers for V6 or must I use V7? The last step would be to download the image over the serial line. Is there allready a programm for RT-11SJ V4.00 which does this? Thanks for your help endergone Zwiebeltuete -- insanity inside

28 years, 11 months

Re: PDP Unix - how to load?

by wkt＠csadfa.cs.adfa.oz.au

In atricle by Danny R. Brown: > 3.If Keith has not yet found a way to transfer files I have a set of > PD tape utilities which work quite well. As I recall I installed > TSXTCP (from shop.pdp.kent.edu) and FTP'd the files from my PC to my > 11/73, built the tapes with the aforementioned utilities (TK-50, but > I believe most any style will do), booted up and installed everything > in about three days. > > I'm sure that I posted a pointer to the ftp site for the tape utils > on this sig, or maybe e-mailed them to someone who requested. I'm > still not home much but drop me a line and I'll dig out the notes, > names, and etc., in the next few days... > cheers! Danny, I just looked thru the archive and, no, you didn't post any detais. So, would you drop a line with the info when you get back. Thanks again! Warren

29 years

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